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#1 ·
Cant really pin point a winner this season.


The season preview at the end looks good though! I'm ready. Even if the fights are uneventful, we are in for some good reality tv... and theres not much of that anymore
 
#71 ·
Anyone know why Julian wanted to fight Dom so badly? It looked like Dom was just getting between Hill and Neil to stop a potential fight, and Julian didn't like him interfering or something. Did Dom say something to Julian after that? Either way, Julian is a tool when he drinks. I can't stand angry drunks.

Chaney vs. Manley was a fun short fight. I can't believe Chaney actually bit him. Also surprised that he admitted that it was on purpose after. I wonder if he realizes him getting a contract is extremely doubtful now. He may have had a chance too considering he was at least in an exciting fight while most of the other losers weren't.
 
#75 ·
He was drunk and he sucks, the kids a meathead likely going through roid withdrawal.

Hope Dana signs James Chaney(the snake).

Think that dude has potential if he learns to keep his teeth to himself.
I hope Dana dumps these guys on Strikeforce so they do have a shot. I mean it's not their fault they've gotten shitty coaching and terrible fight matchups this season, it's Dana's fault for booking Nelson and Carwin as "coaches".

I mean 4 of the 7 guys that got knocked out of the first round could be UFC caliber fighters (Alvey, Ellis, Heiron-Web, Chaney) but they got screwed over either by bad fights, bad judging or fighting way out of their weight class (Alvey, Ellis).

But as we know only two guys are getting a contract from this season, and that sucks.
 
#72 ·
Hyped for Dom vs Ricci. If Ricci can deal with the wrestling he should win but he's a smaller guy. Should be interesting

Oh and **** Julian as well. Jim screaming like a child and banging his head against the wall was maybe the worst tantrum on tuf. Someone should have just choked him out mad dropped his dumb skull on the pavement.

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#80 ·
Ricci always came off as a self-important type of guy. Turns out hes not only that but also a back stabber.

Can't believe Dom gave him that fight
 
#82 · (Edited)
Igor seems like such an unstable guy. First at his weigh in against Webb, he grinds his head right up against Webb's which must have been annoying, but then when Webb touches his face (which I don't blame him for doing), Igor has the nerve to be like "don't touch my @%^$ing face." Igor can give it, but he can't take it.

Then, this second weigh in, he apparently shoves Colton twice and has to be held back. Colton may have said something to provoke it, but he seemed quite calm about the situation so that leads me to believe that Igor overreacted. I guess it's all speculation right now on what actually happened, but two weigh ins in a row where Igor acts like a jerk is an odd coincidence.

On a side note, the fights this season are pretty bad. I'm glad Ricci won against Waters even though I was originally hoping Waters would win. At least Ricci was trying to make the fight exciting. His stand up looked good, but Waters was content on grinding with extremely weak ground and pound. I'm not that against grinding, I just don't like to see people do it very poorly until the point where someone's just holding their opponent down.

Dom basically gave that fight to Ricci. He had the dominant position and you can tell he just dropped back on purpose. He wasn't shoved down, he forced himself down and immediately looked for the triangle. Ricci despite being very tired, he still easily shrugged off any attempts from Waters before they even began. It makes you wonder what Waters was thinking.

Ricci looked good up until he gassed, but that probably has a lot to do with being outside of his weight class, and we all know how intense the training is on the show as well.

Barring maybe (BIG MAYBE, depends on how he performs at his natural weight class) Ricci, I don't expect any of these guys to make waves in the UFC in the near future without dramatic adjustments to their game. I can't blame Dana for not handing out contracts.
 
#84 ·
Waiting for Julian to do something like that to Dana White. I could imagine Dana coming back to the house again to talk to all of them and he just starts flipping out trying to come at Dana. It would be funny considering Julian would be out of the house so fast. I wonder how Dana would even respond during the situation.

I admit that I'd laugh.
 
#85 ·
I have no issue with people trying to "stand out" with their hair "style" and whatnot.

what I do have a problem with, is when you rock such a haircut and act like a ***** and cry. it just doesn't go together.

This TUF is probably the worst (and I have low standards when it comes to TUF, I basically liked them all), by far.

The fights are boring, the coaches, well... I'm not even starting on the coaches.

TUF Smashes is not stellar either, but it's still a hundred times better than the Carwin/Nelson one.
 
#92 ·
Trying to hold Ricci down and get a decision. He started when he realized he couldn't stand with Ricci by any stretch. And Ricci still did more damage on the ground.

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#99 ·
Colton had a good performance against a solid guy on the ground in Igor. Colton has actually grown on me this season since his little problem in his qualifying fight with the glove touch.

I'm actually surprised, a guy with such limited experience in professional MMA has been getting his fights against MMA veterans with a lot of experience and he's been winning. Ellis is 18-15, Igor is 22-6, while Colton is just 3-1. The experience he's getting against these guys should benefit him a lot. The fact that he is winning is just the icing.

I was impressed with his ground game. Igor has very good BJJ and tried to create scrambles, sweeps, and submission opportunities many times, but Colton would just shrug them off and roll with it and maintain top position. His ground and pound was decent. He used it when it was safe too, but he was smart enough to know not to go crazy with it considering Igor could have gotten a chance for a submission. Knowing that at his age and with his limited experience is good.

Some people may not have liked that fight, but I actually enjoyed it. Some good ground work and ground and pound displayed, and every time Igor would roll at an attempt for a sweep or a submission, I'd wonder if Colton would once again shrug it off and maintain the dominant position.

It was a very good fight in my opinion.
 
#107 ·
Julian Lane is terrible.

This is probably the worst season of TUF that I've ever watched.
 
#113 · (Edited)
Yeah, the fights are pretty terrible this season. It's kind of funny actually. They talk a load of trash to each other, but then when they actually get inside the octagon, most of them are content with just leaning each other against the fence and attempting to hold each other down waiting for the time to run out, and how about the ridiculous over use of the back mount? It's a dominant position for sure, but you see guys take each others back, and once locking in a decent body triangle, they coast and ride each other for 5 minutes without doing any real damage. It's as if they're thinking "Well, I got a very dominant position, but I'm not gonna do much just in case I lose it. I'm not very skilled after all. At least I'll win the round either way cause he's not going anywhere."

Secor vs. Hill was cringe worthy. I scored it for Secor, but neither deserved the win. I thought it was funny that Hill won actually. Secor took his back and just did.. Nothing. Hill wasn't good enough to get out of that position, and Secor just clinged on to him the entire time waiting for the time to run out thus making us wish we never tuned in. It was boring, sloppy, and justice was served by giving the loser the win. Maybe it will encourage guys to not have such ridiculous tactics.

I get it, they want to win the tournament and don't want to risk losing, but do they realize that if they end up losing, Dana will want nothing to do with them? Nobody wants to bring back a boring grinder. (There are exciting grinders out there, just not on this show.) Although, a guy who brings it and is exciting, he's more likely to be brought back down the line, if not immediately. Last season is an example. It was considered a very good season, and because of that, every guy got a second chance. That should be looked at more by future TUF contestants. I don't get why it isn't already.

That being said, I'm hoping Colton and Ricci make it to the finals. They're fighting out of their weight classes, and are still winning. They are really the only ones with any sort of skills and potential on the show in my opinion.
 
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