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Old 02-07-2013, 01:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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what makes you think his family was wealthy? I seriously doubt that since he grew up in a black neighborhood Statistically speaking that probably means he didn't grow up rich.
i grew up near chael, have met him several times, and still live a few miles from he was raised (and west linn is not a black area btw, most of portland is pretty whitewashed except for nopo and some outlying regions like aloha and tigard) chael's family is moneyed and they are well-known in the community. they own and operate multiple businesses. his father is a member of the local masonic lodge which is more or less a conglomerate of businessmen and politicians who hook each other up. yes, they are wealthy. not billionaire wealthy, but wealthy.
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:27 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I can relate a lot more with Chael because of this season now.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:34 PM   #25 (permalink)
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i grew up near chael, have met him several times, and still live a few miles from he was raised (and west linn is not a black area btw, most of portland is pretty whitewashed except for nopo and some outlying regions like aloha and tigard) chael's family is moneyed and they are well-known in the community. they own and operate multiple businesses. his father is a member of the local masonic lodge which is more or less a conglomerate of businessmen and politicians who hook each other up. yes, they are wealthy. not billionaire wealthy, but wealthy.
I was gonna say the same thing - West Linn is not a predominately African American area, unless you're talking about the Portland Trailblazers who live there. I grew up in Gladstone (just across the river) and no way was that a "black area" at all.
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Does he sound like he has a black accent?
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:12 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Chael's net worth is estimated around 750K. not quite billionaire rich. His dad has been dead for more than 10 years. I don't know how dirt poor the people of Oregon are to be impressed by those rich guys at the masonic lodge. Around here they might average a little bit richer than the guys at the Moose Lodge. Not much
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well yeah, chael's got a lot of experience with failure. he was born into an extremely wealthy and affluent family and had every advantage growing up, yet in terms of his actual accomplishments, he's a felon (who rolled on his partners in conspiracy to avoid jail time, and destroyed his chances of becoming a politician which should have been hilariously easy coming from his pedigree), a fighter with only a decent record and a serious weakness to submission, someone who has made public statements and then lied to cover them up, oh, and had some suspect fake tap moments. that's a lot of failure to cope with in a lifetime.

gaining the respect of people through carefully scripted media comedy and camera editing is extremely impressive though and i can see how he feels like he overcame adversity there, so his statement hits me deep inside my heart as well.
This.

Most people will always fall for what their TV tells them to think instead of reality though. Reality TV is the new reality. You're fighting a losing battle here.

Chael is not very nice. He's selfish, disrespectful, a prolific liar, greedy (will do anything for money and his cult will justify it saying "He was only a douche for the money! That's so much better ... isn't it ?"), attention hungry, queue-jumping, unrepentant felon (unrepentant being the key word here - the past is the past, but only if you repent for it. If not, it's called the present.), unscrupulous and insensitive as a human being, a fighter with an average record and many weaknesses.

I'm sure he has some good qualities as do all human beings (hard worker, good teacher) and infinite potential also as everyone does, but as it stands there are much better people around by far, especially in the fight profession. Both at fighting and being good people.

You are about the only guy on here who has actually met Chael and live in his community, but your opinion will be considered the least informed obviously.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:42 AM   #29 (permalink)
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i didnt actually hear hexrei say that when he met chael these times that he was a dick
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i didnt actually hear hexrei say that when he met chael these times that he was a dick
A guy can be a dick without being one to every random guy that crosses his path.

In general I'd say his dozens of misdeeds, steroid/TRT use, mudslinging, family and xenophopic insults, cheap antics and reputation in his own community count for more than some scripted crap and jokes he tells on a reality TV show, but maybe that's just me.
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