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Old 09-29-2013, 10:40 AM   #151 (permalink)
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1 - Edmond/Hallman: If Tates team actually brought in Hallman to provoke Edmond into a fight and hav ehim kicked from the show, it would only be a good thing ... normally I would agree with anyone that called this a cheap and dirty trick, but when Rousey herself said she was going to be a bitch just to get Tate riled up and fight emotionally when they meet in Dec, then I don't see how she can complain when Tate pulls a similar tactic.

That said, both Tate and Rousey should lay off the stupidity. They are there for the fighters, to help them become better fighters .... this BS doesn't help that goal at all.

2 - Roxy may be a nice person, but man did she look terrible in that fight. My guess is that being a veteran in a division that is only starting to get recognized as legitimate is no advantage .... old training methods on a ad-hoc basis is not match for new training methods on a regular daily schedule (Jessica's stand up looked pretty good though.) ... but I guess that's the point of TUF, to take raw talent, give them a change to prove they can grow with the proper training.

BTW: the ref needs to get a new job judging dog shows, that fight was obviously over at least two or three times before he finally stopped it.

3 - The drama and crying: The 'drama' is show business, ideally they would cut it out and concentrate on doing the est job for the fighters, but as long as it's there, then I don't mind it ... gives me someone to 'hate on' (team Rousey) for when they finally step into the octagon.

The crying? no dig deal at all, women cry over emotional situations, hell so do I at times ... the way I see it, there was a discussion a while ago about the possibility of men and women fighting against one another. Most people declared that there were differences between men and women that would make that impossible forever. If these people believe there are differences between men and women, but don't recognize this as one of those differences, then they are just being hypocrites, or should just come out and admit that they don't respect women as fighters and will find every excuse to diminish they participation in MMA.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:06 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Another issue is rather than go for quality coaching they're aiming for entertainment value more so than any other seasons.

Brock, this season, Chuck vs Tito x 3, they gotta bring in real talent w/ a solid team.

Only watched the first episode. Ronda is a baby in the sport and should not have coaching duties yet. That's why a lot of times you see the best coaches are actually the ones with losing/mediocre records. They understand the hardships and can relate to the up and comers. More importantly they understand how to communicate on all levels. It's apparent Ronda has a difficult time articulating herself especially when she's emotionally charged. A true professional is composed at all times.

Too much beefing detracts from the underlining goal of creating new talent. It's good to have some, but from what I'm hearing it's a bit amateurish.

Koscheck tried to play games and got owned in every way possible; coaching, special guests, in the actual title fight. He's now completely irrelevant.

Tate on the other hand has this perma smirk. She got beat by Kat and is lucky to be in this position. Her team is mediocre at best.

I'd like to see Firaz back in the mix along with Danaher and lets get Ray Luongo in there. Fluke or not he trained two fighters who pulled two of the greatest upsets in this sports history.

In fact I would have liked to see Anderson w/ Team Blackhouse coach against Weidman.

Pettis w/ Team Roufus vs whoever would be a classic.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:27 AM   #153 (permalink)
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1 - Edmond/Hallman: If Tates team actually brought in Hallman to provoke Edmond into a fight and hav ehim kicked from the show, it would only be a good thing ... normally I would agree with anyone that called this a cheap and dirty trick, but when Rousey herself said she was going to be a bitch just to get Tate riled up and fight emotionally when they meet in Dec, then I don't see how she can complain when Tate pulls a similar tactic.

That said, both Tate and Rousey should lay off the stupidity. They are there for the fighters, to help them become better fighters .... this BS doesn't help that goal at all.

2 - Roxy may be a nice person, but man did she look terrible in that fight. My guess is that being a veteran in a division that is only starting to get recognized as legitimate is no advantage .... old training methods on a ad-hoc basis is not match for new training methods on a regular daily schedule (Jessica's stand up looked pretty good though.) ... but I guess that's the point of TUF, to take raw talent, give them a change to prove they can grow with the proper training.

BTW: the ref needs to get a new job judging dog shows, that fight was obviously over at least two or three times before he finally stopped it.

3 - The drama and crying: The 'drama' is show business, ideally they would cut it out and concentrate on doing the est job for the fighters, but as long as it's there, then I don't mind it ... gives me someone to 'hate on' (team Rousey) for when they finally step into the octagon.

The crying? no dig deal at all, women cry over emotional situations, hell so do I at times ... the way I see it, there was a discussion a while ago about the possibility of men and women fighting against one another. Most people declared that there were differences between men and women that would make that impossible forever. If these people believe there are differences between men and women, but don't recognize this as one of those differences, then they are just being hypocrites, or should just come out and admit that they don't respect women as fighters and will find every excuse to diminish they participation in MMA.

Absolutely agree. Her stand up (the kicks in particular) was terrible. I've seen people throw better kicks than she did in a beginners Muay Thai class.
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Absolutely agree. Her stand up (the kicks in particular) was terrible. I've seen people throw better kicks than she did in a beginners Muay Thai class.
Yeah it's true, she completely sucks on the feet but she has a good ground game. It was pretty cringeworthy that they were calling her a "master of jiujitsu" when she's a brown belt though.

Roxy is a nice girl but I don't really want to see her in the UFC and I doubt she'll ever get an opportunity with a showing like that.
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I dont put any merit into anything I see outside of the cage on TUF, its all edited and bias.
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Yeah it's true, she completely sucks on the feet but she has a good ground game. It was pretty cringeworthy that they were calling her a "master of jiujitsu" when she's a brown belt though.

Roxy is a nice girl but I don't really want to see her in the UFC and I doubt she'll ever get an opportunity with a showing like that.
Her jitz didn't look that good either. I mean she got slammed and KOd because she didn't underhook a leg to prevent herself from getting picked up. It's not like the slam was fast and explosive.

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Having watched episode 5 I don't find it that weird that Ronda is a little "special" with a mother like that and the way she was brought up!

This might have made Ronda tougher overall but I am not sure if that is a valid goal for the choices her mother made.


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Old 10-10-2013, 11:13 AM   #158 (permalink)
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Okay, episode 6 was awesome.

Both girls deserve to make it to the next round.

Rhonda still has the ugliest personality I've seen in a UFC fighter, including the Nick Diaz ... and Misha is super damn hot in a wet bikini.
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Pennington is an absolute class act, no disrespect too WMMA but that of calm composure is pretty much non existent among the women even at the top level you don't see it. Penningtons ability to counterpunch a taller girl while under fire... great stuff.
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