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Old 05-21-2007, 09:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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he didnt sound angry so much as just overly worked up, he devoted a pretty big chunk of that blog to marlon. I mean i got that most of this board doesnt think much of the losers on the show it seems, but I really think the way the guys on the show are ganging against marlon is just juvenile. He's a nice guy who thinks too much of himself, plain and simple.
I dunno, in Jens' blog it seems as if Marlon was pretty popular and helpful with the team. The cameras showed them laughing at him a lot, but the way Jens talks it was all in good fun and no one really hated him for it. I think Joe was just writing all this because he knows people (fans and readers) wanna hear about that stuff.

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Great bit by Joe Lauzon, and a great post.

I do think that Andy was a little bit hard headed. When an instructor tells you to stop, you stop. You can go work on conditioning or something else to keep your body going while you're not rolling or drilling, but you don't get to keep going when an instructor is telling you not to. Especially if it's BJ Penn.

As for Marlon, I sort of figured he was full of sh*t from the clips that they showed, but they didn't show all of the stuff that Joe was talking about, just when he was bragging about his street fights.

Frankly, I'm glad that Wiman kicked his ass and I'm glad that Joe has stepped forward to say something about it and give us some insight beyond what they've shown on the show.
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There's a difference between "talking shit" and "lying out your ass to make yourself sound like a tough guy". He stepped over the line by constantly talking about it when it was un-needed and for spewing out 90% BS. I didn't think Joe was being too harsh. He was just talking casually in the blog, and calling him out on his BS. He didn't sounds angry or anything to me. Just sounded like he wanted to clear things up for the fans.
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So he kicked Wang off, and didn't kick the guy riding a scooter with a beer in his hand through the training center. Makes sense.

It was obvious BJ just kicked Andy off to look like some kind of hard ass for attention.
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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No, he kicked him off rather than Rob because when Rob was d!cking around it wasn't during training. Wang supposedly didn't listen to anyone not only during his fight but also every day during training. He probably realized that after Gabe got kicked off it made his job a little easier, since Gabe was always a distraction. Wang was the next biggest distraction on the team, because he was constantly doing shit his own way and BJ and the coaches would have to cater to his dumbass more than they should have had to. So he prolly figured kicking the other dumbass distraction off the team would help him accomplish what Dana was yelling at him for.
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I dunno, in Jens' blog it seems as if Marlon was pretty popular and helpful with the team. The cameras showed them laughing at him a lot, but the way Jens talks it was all in good fun and no one really hated him for it. I think Joe was just writing all this because he knows people (fans and readers) wanna hear about that stuff.

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Old 05-22-2007, 02:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Wow, sounds like Joe doesn't like Marlon at all. Good insight into the Andy Wang thing.

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Most of the guys on the show are just kids so I guess it’s to be expected when someone acts like a jackass. Joe impressed me not just because he’s such a polished fighter but he carries himself like someone with a little wisdom, he’s listening when everyone else is flapping their lips.

From what I’ve seen most of the top fighters have a very cerebral side, they tend to be quiet and analyze things before saying (or doing) something stupid. Joe has a good chance of winning the entire thing because all the other fighters are caught up in the game of trying to be more cool or more tough than the next guy, Joe is busy analyzing each fighter and thinking how he is going to smash them.
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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It was a good read and I do agree joe seems to have his head screwed on right. I thing joe has a little love affair going on with BJ's nutz those. BJ was being a good general... hardly.. BJ hasn't been the best coach. That started with the selection process. He gets reamed by dana, who does get to see the things we dont, and he runs out, blames all his problems on wang and kicks him off the team. Its like all the decisions he loses. he blames them on the judges and not take responsibilty for his own actions. BJ loses decisions because yes, he comes out and does damage in the first round and then gases and loses the rest of the rounds. Looks likes he's teaching his guys on the show the same work ethic. Blaming wang is a joke. if wang has been a problem, he should have dealt with it before. hate to say it, tito has still been the best coach I have seen...
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