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Old 05-25-2007, 12:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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his comment when he got kicked made me sick "i don't condone street fighting". thats all his stories were about then he says something like that? puhlease.
You caught that too. Glad he's gone
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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sims is in a fairy world.

where you get your ass kicked but still think you own.

I think he thinks he fought 4 guys at once after he got punched.

who knows how many people he saw in his eyes
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't like either but Marlon is crazy. Saying he dominated when it was pretty much equal, him getting a little better of it, was silly. I'd love to see them at the finale where Marlon can't slam him on concrete or those rocks.
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Agree that Sims came off like a jackass - again. Agree that he didn't "dominate". Agree that he probably exaggerated how much tequila he drank.

But I have a few other comments/questions for the crowd here:

1. Do you think it was stupid of Noah to consistently try for an armbar in a streetfight (i.e. a fight outside the ring)? I'm thinking you want to avoid going to the ground when you're fighting on concrete.

2. Wasn't it incredibly naive of Noah to expect that he wouldn't get dropped on his head when he tried to take the fight to the ground? Expecting rules in a streetfight seems foolish to me.

3. What was all the talk about finishing this in the final? They both lost their fights and they weren't going to fight again. Or did they think they'd be able to fight on an undercard? I was honestly perplexed by this.

4. I suspect that Noah was a little too thick to make it as a Marine. He seems like a tough kid, and a good guy with a good heart, but I question his judgement after he pissed off BJ's wrestling coach (and got rag-dolled for it) and now after getting into a fight at the UFC house.
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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1. Do you think it was stupid of Noah to consistently try for an armbar in a streetfight (i.e. a fight outside the ring)? I'm thinking you want to avoid going to the ground when you're fighting on concrete.

Probably wanted to tap him cause he was saying i NEVER TAP EVER NO MATTER WHAT!.

2. Wasn't it incredibly naive of Noah to expect that he wouldn't get dropped on his head when he tried to take the fight to the ground? Expecting rules in a streetfight seems foolish to me.

Yeah, that was. For me personally, in the street fights I've been in, I don't have it in me to hurt someone like that, but a lot of people would.

3. What was all the talk about finishing this in the final? They both lost their fights and they weren't going to fight again. Or did they think they'd be able to fight on an undercard? I was honestly perplexed by this.

Everyone fights on the finale.

4. I suspect that Noah was a little too thick to make it as a Marine. He seems like a tough kid, and a good guy with a good heart, but I question his judgement after he pissed off BJ's wrestling coach (and got rag-dolled for it) and now after getting into a fight at the UFC house

uh, idk.
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Probably wanted to tap him cause he was saying i NEVER TAP EVER NO MATTER WHAT!.
Ahhhh.... I hadn't thought of that.

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Yeah, that was. For me personally, in the street fights I've been in, I don't have it in me to hurt someone like that, but a lot of people would.
I hear where you're coming from. While I dig the hell out of MMA, I'm not a fighter and if I got into a fight, it would be because I got forced into it. I'd probably view it as a life-and-death thing and completely freak out. I could imagine having to explain to a judge why I repeatedly slammed some dude's head in a car door. Guys who fight in combat sports must be much calmer about fighting in general. Maybe Noah viewed this as impromptu sparring and expect the "rules" to follow him to the house. Maybe it's some sort of fighter's code?

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I didn't know that - I've even watched all the episodes. How did that get by me?

Thanks for the clarifications.
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I missed the show last night, but watched the video today.

Marlon S, 300 street fight wins but doesn't condone street fighting... Am i missing something ?

Even in the street fight, Noah looked like a better technical fighter.

Marlon tossed the chair, they both wanted to fight....

But Marlon used his first excuse not to fight by saying HIT ME FIRST after he tossed Noah...

Noah did have a sick arm bar, i think he didn't want to break his arm, then Marlon started crying.

Noah sure used some bad judgment.

Marlon is a suck Alcohol is not an excuse!
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Agree that Sims came off like a jackass - again. Agree that he didn't "dominate". Agree that he probably exaggerated how much tequila he drank.
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But I have a few other comments/questions for the crowd here:

1. Do you think it was stupid of Noah to consistently try for an armbar in a streetfight (i.e. a fight outside the ring)? I'm thinking you want to avoid going to the ground when you're fighting on concrete.
More ignorant than stupid - it was a street fight. But I gaurantee he went for the arm bar so consistently due to Sims flabbin' his mouth about how he cannot be tapped.

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2. Wasn't it incredibly naive of Noah to expect that he wouldn't get dropped on his head when he tried to take the fight to the ground? Expecting rules in a streetfight seems foolish to me.
No one said he didn't expect it, did they? But if he did say it, then yes it would be naive.

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Everyone fights in the finale

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4. I suspect that Noah was a little too thick to make it as a Marine. He seems like a tough kid, and a good guy with a good heart, but I question his judgement after he pissed off BJ's wrestling coach (and got rag-dolled for it) and now after getting into a fight at the UFC house.
The fight with Sims would've been hard to avoid. Yeah, very possible, but who would pass up a chance at KO'n Sims?
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Remember too that Noah didn't say let's have a streetfight. He posted up to him like they were going to fight with MMA rules. He could have very possibly thought they were just going to see who would win if they had fought.
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Agree that Sims came off like a jackass - again. Agree that he didn't "dominate". Agree that he probably exaggerated how much tequila he drank.

But I have a few other comments/questions for the crowd here:

1. Do you think it was stupid of Noah to consistently try for an armbar in a streetfight (i.e. a fight outside the ring)? I'm thinking you want to avoid going to the ground when you're fighting on concrete.

2. Wasn't it incredibly naive of Noah to expect that he wouldn't get dropped on his head when he tried to take the fight to the ground? Expecting rules in a streetfight seems foolish to me.

3. What was all the talk about finishing this in the final? They both lost their fights and they weren't going to fight again. Or did they think they'd be able to fight on an undercard? I was honestly perplexed by this.

4. I suspect that Noah was a little too thick to make it as a Marine. He seems like a tough kid, and a good guy with a good heart, but I question his judgement after he pissed off BJ's wrestling coach (and got rag-dolled for it) and now after getting into a fight at the UFC house.
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4. I suspect that Noah was a little too thick to make it as a Marine. He seems like a tough kid, and a good guy with a good heart, but I question his judgement after he pissed off BJ's wrestling coach (and got rag-dolled for it) and now after getting into a fight at the UFC house.
If you lock a few Marines in a room and come back in an hour they would be wrestling and most of the shit in the room would be broken. I think this is par for the course. Honestly I would expect more fights in a house where you lock away fighters with little outside contact. Especially the ones who aren't in the competition anymore.

I have to say I have some respect for Noah as he took the punishment like a man and even said he couldn't fault dana for what he did. Marlon Sims is a ***** plain and simple! He couldn't even take his punishment like a man.
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