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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-04-2014, 11:38 PM Thread Starter
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Why does Dana White Dislike Ground Fighting?

Dana White constantly says how he dislikes fights on the mat. Isn't that what makes UFC the great sport that is causing the demise of Boxing.
Tonight I heard Dana White say how he hates these fights on the mat. The loser of the match said he trained for a stand-up fight, knowing that his opponent was a great striker, and that was where he failed. Sounds to me like ground fighting by a good striker was a strategy that was successful.
Lately, the remarks from Dana White sound more like those I heard coming from the distant past of the boxing community.
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He likes people who are "exciting" to the masses, therfore strikers, sluggers etc. Guy's who can bang. That's the reason why strikers will always have an advantage in the UFC.

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I don't think he hates groundfighting, but what he considers boring fights. The fight in question here, I thought it was an exciting, hard fought battle.It was also the kind of fight that got Fitch, Okami, Shields, and others cut.

Dana loves to see damage, what he calls 'absolute wars', and finishes. Plus fights on free tv in general needto be exciting to draw new fans in. That's why they only show performance highlights on the first episode if a fight goes the distance. I wouldn't go as far as to call Dana a Just Bleed-guy, but he is a promoter, and that's why shits on fights like this.

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I realize that many fans interested in MMA enjoy the standup bloody brawl, myself included; however, most fights on the streets will barring a knockout go to the ground. If there is great defense that stifles the offense the fight is boring, but, from my perspective the only reason to stand them up is when there is no effort at advancement and not no advancement and of course the time limit enters into it since fans don't want to see two fighters on the mat for long periods anymore than they want to see a Tyson fight which ends early in the first round. The fans viewing are much more involved with a ground fight when you have a color commentator like Joe Rogan. Thanks for your replies.
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It is a pretty straight forward answer. Personally I like the ground wizardy of Pride Big Nog, Japanese dude with neon pants (can't think of the name for some reason right now) juss remembered Shinya Aoki, Maia when he first came in, Bibiano, and submissions like what Luke Rockhold did.

Otherwise war of attrition to control opponents, stall time, pepper with meaningless shots is quite blasé.

If it were like video games it would be based on damage. Imagine that. A whole lot of different outcomes.

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It is a pretty straight forward answer. Personally I like the ground wizardy of Pride Big Nog, Japanese dude with neon pants (can't think of the name for some reason right now) juss remembered Shinya Aoki, Maia when he first came in, Bibiano, and submissions like what Luke Rockhold did.

Otherwise war of attrition to control opponents, stall time, pepper with meaningless shots is quite blasé.

If it were like video games it would be based on damage. Imagine that. A whole lot of different outcomes.
Let's just clear this up. Big Nog was/is not a ground wizard nor does he poses ground wizardry. He played a dated open guard/wrist control game that got him battered and then when guys gassed out he'd catch them. That is so far from what bjj is about it's terrifying.

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Let's just clear this up. Big Nog was/is not a ground wizard nor does he poses ground wizardry. He played a dated open guard/wrist control game that got him battered and then when guys gassed out he'd catch them. That is so far from what bjj is about it's terrifying.

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Ya gotta admit he put on a BJJ clinic again Enson Inoue though. In my mind I always thought he was pretty good. Problem is modern BJJ is far more advanced. I get your point though, nowadays it's about the jelly fish guard...haha. With the constant refinement of the art, old moves become obsolete.

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Ya gotta admit he put on a BJJ clinic again Enson Inoue though. In my mind I always thought he was pretty good. Problem is modern BJJ is far more advanced. I get your point though, nowadays it's about the jelly fish guard...haha. With the constant refinement of the art, old moves become obsolete.
Nog has run some clinics but whenever he faced a guy with modest grappling ability he got smashed on. Even if he did get the sub at the end.

I'm not even talking about modern bjj. It seemed he didn't even know what an overhook was half the time. He got smashed on from his guard way way too much for a bjj black belt imho.

Comparing his game then to bjj now is actually pretty comparable. If you tried to play some of those flavor of the month guards in mma you'd get smashed just as bad haha.

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Dana White constantly says how he dislikes fights on the mat. Isn't that what makes UFC the great sport that is causing the demise of Boxing.
Tonight I heard Dana White say how he hates these fights on the mat. The loser of the match said he trained for a stand-up fight, knowing that his opponent was a great striker, and that was where he failed. Sounds to me like ground fighting by a good striker was a strategy that was successful.
Lately, the remarks from Dana White sound more like those I heard coming from the distant past of the boxing community.
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