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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 07-03-2007, 02:36 PM
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Lauzon, Nate, Gray, Manny and Cole.
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post #22 of 39 (permalink) Old 07-03-2007, 03:40 PM
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Well Nate has a good chance of being a title holder also i think that Matt Wiman can be a title contender someday aswell if he works on his skills abit more.
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post #23 of 39 (permalink) Old 07-05-2007, 02:20 AM
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Only J-Lau, Manny, and maybe Diaz (needs to learn to stop taking these beatings before he wins and I don't care what Dana White wants us to think his striking f'ing sucks). Manny is great and def has contendership chance and maybe title chances. But I think J-Lau is the best, he just had a bad fight. He is the most well rounded and the most inteligent.
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We don't know the seriousness of manny's injury. it is yet to be seen how much of a prob it will be. I can't believe all the names showing up on here. People, remember who these guys have to fight. Sherk, Bj Penn, Stevenson, Florian. Do you honsetly think that all these guys have a chance? corey, never. Akaward fighter, started to late, doesn't have a killer instinct. Gray, prolly not. Could be like Kos but i doubt it. Okay striking with good wrestling/gnp doesn't cut it any more. Diaz, unlikely unless he bulks up and starts protecting himself. Sherk would rip this guy up inside of one round. Jiu Jitsu isn't enough any more either. (Stop saying Diaz can strike, throwing punches doesn't mean he does it well). Winman is a girl who just wants to look pretty and doesn't like getting hit. Cole, i actually wouldn't be to surprised if he just polished his game a little. The guy surprised me alot. Melendez (I hope is a joke, nothing more to say. He sucks.)
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post #25 of 39 (permalink) Old 07-05-2007, 10:57 AM
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I think the only one with a true chance of being a contender is Lauzon or Diaz. As of right now, none of them do though. Give them another 2 or 3 years then maybe we can talk. Until then, none of the TUF LW IMO stand a chance against Sherk, Franca, Penn and the like.
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Corey Hill will make an impact he's got the heart determination and dedication to whoop ass in the LW division
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I think if manny didnt **** his shouldern up he would be a contender to being a contender
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Im gonna list the fighters from top to bottom as to who will have the brightest UFC careers:

1.Joe Lauzon: I still believe that he is the brightest star out the bunch, he already owns a victory over a former LW champion and at 23 has all the time in the world on his hands to continue to improve.

2.Nate Diaz: It was no fluke that he won the Finale, yes he got a lil lucky that Manny dislocated his shoulder but just cuz Manny won the first rd dont mean a lot. Diaz is a purple belt in Jiu-Jitsu and can take quite a punishing b4 he locks in a submission. Look at Nate to step out of Nick's shadow within the next 3-5 years.

3.Cole Miller: Another fighter who may have a good run in the UFC. Personally I dont think he will ever be champion, however I see him causing waves in the LW division, maybe go to WEC and fight in the lighter divisions.

4.Manny Gamburyan: Yes Manny is all the way down at #4. He would be hovering around 2nd or 3rd however he has had problems with that shoulder before and he must prove at least to me that it wont plague his MMA career. If it is just coincidence, then watch out, we are lookin at the new Sean Sherk of the division in a couple years.

5.Matt Wiiman: He will never be LW champion, however I believe he will continue to fight in the UFC. He is a descent fighter and he is a very sellable character. Just look at his fight with Fischer and you'll understand.

6.Corey Hill I just dont know where to put him. The 5 guys above are more talented than him, however give this guy the right training and right mentality and he could be #1 on this list. A real unknown as to how far this 6'4 freak of nature can go in the LW division.
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Im gonna list the fighters from top to bottom as to who will have the brightest UFC careers:

1.Joe Lauzon: I still believe that he is the brightest star out the bunch, he already owns a victory over a former LW champion and at 23 has all the time in the world on his hands to continue to improve.

2.Nate Diaz: It was no fluke that he won the Finale, yes he got a lil lucky that Manny dislocated his shoulder but just cuz Manny won the first rd dont mean a lot. Diaz is a purple belt in Jiu-Jitsu and can take quite a punishing b4 he locks in a submission. Look at Nate to step out of Nick's shadow within the next 3-5 years.

3.Cole Miller: Another fighter who may have a good run in the UFC. Personally I dont think he will ever be champion, however I see him causing waves in the LW division, maybe go to WEC and fight in the lighter divisions.

4.Manny Gamburyan: Yes Manny is all the way down at #4. He would be hovering around 2nd or 3rd however he has had problems with that shoulder before and he must prove at least to me that it wont plague his MMA career. If it is just coincidence, then watch out, we are lookin at the new Sean Sherk of the division in a couple years.

5.Matt Wiiman: He will never be LW champion, however I believe he will continue to fight in the UFC. He is a descent fighter and he is a very sellable character. Just look at his fight with Fischer and you'll understand.

6.Corey Hill I just dont know where to put him. The 5 guys above are more talented than him, however give this guy the right training and right mentality and he could be #1 on this list. A real unknown as to how far this 6'4 freak of nature can go in the LW division.
Dude Gray is should be at least number 3 on this list, if not number 2. I think Joe will most likely be the best, but once Gray learns some BJJ defense (at least as much as Matt Hughes) he will be a beast. Diaz wouldn't have stood a chance if Gray had decent BJJ, and his wrestling, GnP, and striking are starting to look really good.
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Dude Gray is should be at least number 3 on this list, if not number 2. I think Joe will most likely be the best, but once Gray learns some BJJ defense (at least as much as Matt Hughes) he will be a beast. Diaz wouldn't have stood a chance if Gray had decent BJJ, and his wrestling, GnP, and striking are starting to look really good.


Yo $hit my bad I cant believe I forgot Gray...

Id prolly have Gray at #3 thinkin about it. Dunno if he will ever be good enough to be champion but he will always be in that contender roll and may get a titleshot one day. He is 28 and doesnt have as much time to improve as the #1 and #2 above him.
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