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Old 11-09-2007, 08:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Matt Serra just doesn't like Hughes as a person, Hughes was all taunting GSP on TUF 4 and Serra and most of the other guys didn't like it. No doubt Matt Serra respects Hughes fighting skill, but most people do agree that Hughes is a dick. Notice that Serra doesn't rag on his fighters and treats everybody else with respect, while Hughes yells at his team instead of trying to help motivate his team. I'm sure Serra's Fighters respect him more than Hughes's fighters respecting Hughes.
Well to be honest, why would Serra yell when his team is winning the fights? He did yell, when Joey lost. Yelled more when Joey wanted to quit. Then his team started winning. I seriously doubt if his team lost 6 in a row he wouldn't at least do some yelling.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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well there has to be a good guy bad guy scenerio....its easier for the masses to consume.....who you feel is the good guy and the bad guy is all a matter of perspective....
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What does the winning coach get anyway? (Other than another excuse to ridicule the opposing coach).
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What does the winning coach get anyway? (Other than another excuse to ridicule the opposing coach).
Not sure they get any actual prize or money. They have been getting free promotion for their gyms and winning more matches than the other coach looks pretty good for their training ability.
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Of course they are putting a negative spin on Hughes. They're not dumb. There's a reason why this show is so popular. They get on internet forums to get ideas for editing, because they know that's what their viewers wanna see. They get on internet forums and see dozens upon dozens of nimrods posting about how much of a dick Hughes is all the time. Dana and Zuffa have no control over editing. So my guess is yes they are putting a negative spin on him cuz they know that's what the viewers wanna see.
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Only a dick would do the things Hughes does, so it doesnt matter wtf the editing team does... either way Hughes still did the things he did. They didnt use their magic editing skills to make Hughes blow a load everytime his team lost.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Only a dick would do the things Hughes does, so it doesnt matter wtf the editing team does... either way Hughes still did the things he did. They didnt use their magic editing skills to make Hughes blow a load everytime his team lost.
What? He wasn't being a dick. For christ sake he was just being a coach. I feel bad for you if you think he was being a dick. Your gym teacher must have made you cry on a daily basis.

And yes, the editing does make that worse. They have over 100 hours of footage per week of him and the only things they show is about 6 total minutes of him being "a dick". Think about that. 100 hours of footage, and the only 6 or so total minutes per week of him being shown in a negative light. Use your brain a bit, just cuz it's on TV doesn't make the end all be all absolute truth..

Do you honestly think that if you had a camera crew follow you around all week and get 100 hours of footage of you, that they wouldn't be able to pick out at least 6 mere minutes of you in a bad mood or doing something some people might considered rude or inappropriate? Give the guy a break already, how can you sit there and judge people based on what a reality series shows you, as if you are perfect yourself?

Also, some of the shit that goes on is clearly scripted, just like in every other reality show on earth, so I would take some of the stuff Hughes says or does with a grain of salt anyway. For all we know he coulda got paid a little extra to read lines.
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What? He wasn't being a dick. For christ sake he was just being a coach. I feel bad for you if you think he was being a dick. Your gym teacher must have made you cry on a daily basis.

And yes, the editing does make that worse. They have over 100 hours of footage per week of him and the only things they show is about 6 total minutes of him being "a dick". Think about that. 100 hours of footage, and the only 6 or so total minutes per week of him being shown in a negative light. Use your brain a bit, just cuz it's on TV doesn't make it real.
Wow.. way to take it so personally.. You feel bad for me for thinking he was a dick? LOL.. I feel bad for you if you dont think hes a dick.. your parents probably abused you.

Of course the editing makes it worse.. but it doesnt change the fact he said the things he said and acted the way he did.. hes still a dick...

Even alot of the guys on his team thought he was a dick.

And as I said before.. everytime someone loses he freaks out.. and not thats not being a coach.. thats being a dick.. what he did in episode 2 when he first lost was being a coach.. he kept his cool.. said things happen etc.. after that he couldnt control himself..

He said he wanted to go home because he was sick of losing... is that something a coach does?

I bet you are just some matt serra hater, and or matt hughes fanboy. You probably hate matt serra because he cant stop talking shit about matt hughes . Well.. he spends about 4 minutes an episode talking shit about matt hughes out of 100hours of footage... so...

P.S. For the record, I don't even dislike Matt Hughes.

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Wow.. way to take it so personally.. You feel bad for me for thinking he was a dick? LOL.. I feel bad for you if you dont think hes a dick.. your parents probably abused you.

Of course the editing makes it worse.. but it doesnt change the fact he said the things he said.. hes still a dick...

Even alot of the guys on his team thought he was a dick.

And as I said before.. everytime someone loses he freaks out.. and not thats not being a coach.. thats being a dick.. what he did in episode 2 when he first lost was being a coach.. he kept his cool.. said things happen etc.. after that he couldnt control himself..

He said he wanted to go home because he was sick of losing... is that something a coach does?

I bet you are just some matt serra hater, and or matt hughes fanboy. You probably hate matt serra because he cant stop talking shit about matt hughes . Well.. he spends about 4 minutes an episode talking shit about matt hughes out of 100hours of footage... so there!

P.S. For the record, I don't even dislike Matt Hughes.
I'm a diehard Penn fan, so although I don't hate Hughes, I don't really like him either. I do respect him though, he's a great fighter and a helluva champion. But I just hate how people watch reality shows and form these elaborate opinions on people they don't even know, and then come on the internet just to bash the guy for his own satisfaction. It's kinda sad. I don't see how what he did on the show affects you or anyone else in a way to the point that you find it neccessary to badmouth him.

I did take it personally, but not cuz it's Hughes, it's because I hate how people believe everything they see on TV.

Like I said, if you thought Hughes was being a dick. Wah. Was it you in there? No, all you were doing was sitting on your ass watching TV. Do you think if they made a reality show out of your life that I wouldn't be able to see you do something that might be considered a "dick move"??

I think Matt Serra is a little overrated as a fighter, well maybe not now since he KOed GSP pretty convincingly, but before that I never really liked him as a fighter. On the show he seems to be a little full of himself and rude. But I'm not gonna form a general opinion about his entire personality based on a reality show. I could really care less what their personalities are outside of the cage.

And yes, my parents did abuse me. They used to hold my head under water until I passed out. Then they would hit me with leather straps and pull my fingernails out with pliers.
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I'm a diehard Penn fan, so although I don't hate Hughes, I don't really like him either. But I just hate how people watch reality shows and form these elaborate opinions on people they don't even know, and then come on the internet just to bash the guy for his own satisfaction. It's kinda sad. I don't see how what he did on the show affects you or anyone else in a way to the point that you find it neccessary to badmouth him.

I did take it personally, but not cuz it's Hughes, it's because I hate how people believe everything they see on TV.

I think Matt Serra is a little overrated as a fighter, well maybe not now since he KOed GSP pretty convincingly, but before that I never really liked him as a fighter. On the show he seems to be a little full of himself and rude. But I'm not gonna form a general opinion about his entire personality based on a reality show. I could really care less what their personalities are outside of the cage.
hold up, I somehow only read half your post before, so let me read the rest, and ill reply lol.. i dont know how I managed that!


EDIT: Ok I read the rest of your orginal post. I do agree that it could very likely be scripted, thus its all irrelevant.

However, my entire opinion on Matt Hughes has been based off a few things...
The main thing is the way he treats his fighters when they lose.. especially the ones that went into the fight with other things on their mind (ie Paul when his cousin died).
I mean I know Paul didnt follow the game plan, but when he wakes up from being knocked out.. I doubt the first thing he wants to hear is how he ****ed up.

Also in Season 2, when he basically treated Jason Von Flue like garbage, even when he won.. simply because Matt Hughes didnt need to win that fight.. that is pretty much exactly what he said... he didnt even congratulate the guy.

Dont get me wrong, I read Matts blog, I read shit on his site.. I know hes not 100% asshole.. but he has his moments, and imo its enough for me to classify him as a jerk.

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