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Old 09-29-2006, 08:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kneeing a downed opponent

Correct my if I'm wrong, but I believe it to be illegal to knee a downed opponent. Matt Serra came really close to keeing an already down and unconcious Pete Spratt. If that would have happened and been seen, what would have happened? The same outcome or would it be stopped and let him revive himself and fight more or give the fight to Spratt? Because they made a big deal out of it when Bisping did it in the finals. Just curious. Tell me what ya think <<< aweseome smiley. wish i had it on yahoo.
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Correct my if I'm wrong, but I believe it to be illegal to knee a downed opponent. Matt Serra came really close to keeing an already down and unconcious Pete Spratt. If that would have happened and been seen, what would have happened? The same outcome or would it be stopped and let him revive himself and fight more or give the fight to Spratt? Because they made a big deal out of it when Bisping did it in the finals. Just curious. Tell me what ya think <<< aweseome smiley. wish i had it on yahoo.
He was close to kneeing him in the head?

Unless the fight has already been called, I believe Sera would've been penalized and Spratt would've been given time to recover. Sera would've received at least a warning, or worse docked a point for the round. I don't think you can be disqualified without a first warning unless the incident is totally blatant and unsportsmanlike. If the fight ends as a result of an illegal knee I'm not sure what UFC rules that, especially in the show since the bouts are exhibition only. I don't know if it would be a no contest or a straight disqualification.

In this case, if Spratt couldn't recover from damage Sera had done prior, I think the fight would've been a win for Sera, despite the illegal knee. Eye pokes, groin shots--stuff like that happens. I don't think they'd take the fight away from him at this point, especially since Spratt has no heart anyways.

When Mike B did it in the finals it was one of those situations where his opponent was in the process of going down to a knee or getting up from one. It's a bit of a grey area, really depends on what the ref sees or thinks he sees. Different feds have different rules on knees and kicks to the head of downed opponents. I think it's a good idea to prevent guys from taking advantage like that. Shows more respect, with the UFC trying to get away from it's bareknuckle roots.

This reminds me of a fairly recent KOTC match in which Joe Stevenson won the LW championship. I can't remember the guy he knocked out but he did so with a vicious knee to the face when the guy was already down. I hate JS anyways but it was still a bad way for the fight to end.
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think you're probably right. Pete Spratt was actually out and nearly on his stomach when he went to knee him. I think the only thing that stopped it was Big John pushed him out of the way as he waved the fight off. Big knees arent really common in the UFC, but when they do land and end fights, its a thing of beauty.
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i coulda sworn the fight ended with serra on spratts back punching the back and sides of his head with spratt tapping lightly. i don't recall seeing any knees?
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ko by the knee is the sweetest looking thing
example- anderson silva vs leban
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