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Ultimate Fighter TV For the seventh season, UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, and top light heavyweight contender & Season 1 champion, Forrest Griffin will train and coach fighters in the middleweight division.
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05-08-2008, 01:08 PM
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Brown...Ehh? Not for Real
Brown tries to act like the biggest harda** I've ever seen. I loved May's attitude towards the fight, it was utter entertainment. You could see how embarrased Brown was we he faked to hit May at the weigh-ins and Jeremy did not so much as even flinch. Even before this Brown was quiet, and questioning how May could really be a decent fighter because he knew nothing about him. He is truly nervous i believe at heart. If May didnt gas, he would have won hands down. Brown threw almost no punches until May had gassed, no counter-striking no nothing, just huddled away. It seems like all of these TUF guys come in with anything in the tank when it comes to conditioning.
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05-08-2008, 01:21 PM
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I don't see any reason to think that May would have won the fight if his conditioning hadn't failed. Yeah, he threw all the punches for the first 2 minutes, but they were sloppy and almost none of them landed.
Brown, while he didn't do much in the early minutes, did the smart thing by biding his time. He wanted to make sure that May wasn't sneaking in good strikes with his sloppy ones. Once it was obvious that he wasn't, Brown started taking it to him.
May just didn't look impressive, even beyond his conditioning.
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05-08-2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Davisty69
I don't see any reason to think that May would have won the fight if his conditioning hadn't failed. Yeah, he threw all the punches for the first 2 minutes, but they were sloppy and almost none of them landed.
Brown, while he didn't do much in the early minutes, did the smart thing by biding his time. He wanted to make sure that May wasn't sneaking in good strikes with his sloppy ones. Once it was obvious that he wasn't, Brown started taking it to him.
May just didn't look impressive, even beyond his conditioning.
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what if may had the conditioning, was brown gonna "bide his time" the whole 10 minutes? i dont think so
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05-08-2008, 01:26 PM
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...that's not the point. Brown would've done the same thing.
"BIDE his time" doesn't mean wait for the guy to gas. It means wait until you've "felt out" his style. That's what happened.
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05-08-2008, 01:27 PM
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what if may had the conditioning, was brown gonna "bide his time" the whole 10 minutes? i dont think so
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Brown was fighting a smart fight and he didn't gas.
He didn't take any chances, took his time, and was never once in trouble.
He also dropped May with the first punch he landed on him.
Also, Matt Brown's first fight of the season was ferocious. The guy definitely has cardio and definitely brings it against a tough opponent.
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05-08-2008, 01:32 PM
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Brown was fighting a smart fight and he didn't gas.
He didn't take any chances, took his time, and was never once in trouble.
He also dropped May with the first punch he landed on him.
Also, Matt Brown's first fight of the season was ferocious. The guy definitely has cardio and definitely brings it against a tough opponent.
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ok so even when ur own coach, forrest griffin says he couldnt counter punch for the life of him, that still means he's biding? ok pal thats probably it biding in a two round fight, thats probably a good thing to do
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05-08-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RageInDaCage
ok so even when ur own coach, forrest griffin says he couldnt counter punch for the life of him, that still means he's biding? ok pal thats probably it biding in a two round fight, thats probably a good thing to do
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He didn't bide the entire fight, by the time he was done feeling Jeremy out, May had nothing left to give and he KO'd him. The fight didn't go past Round 1, so your "biding for two rounds" comment is kind of unfounded.
It's not like it ended in decision. It ended with a pretty sweet KO, actually.
And Forrest didn't say Brown "couldn't" counter. He said he "didn't". Big difference there.
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05-08-2008, 01:40 PM
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He didn't bide the entire fight, by the time he was done feeling Jeremy out, May had nothing left to give and he KO'd him. The fight didn't go past Round 1, so your "biding for two rounds" comment is kind of unfounded.
It's not like it ended in decision. It ended with a pretty sweet KO, actually.
And Forrest didn't say Brown "couldn't" counter. He said he "didn't". Big difference there.
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and what im saying is, if may had the conditioning to make it two rounds, ur whole biding thing is sh*t. he done "done feeling out" jeremy when the dude was gassed and there was nothing to feel out. I said hypothetically if he did not gas, fight woulda been alot diff. and on top of that i said from the beginning this thread is about brown not being as tuff as everyone thinks, he pulls off more impressive wins down the line, ill gladly come back and say ur right, we'll just see how it plays out, this is just how i see it, it just seems to me the guy doubts himself.
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05-08-2008, 01:40 PM
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Anderson does the same thing actually. He's very slow in the first couple of minutes and then starts striking. I don't know why people always find some thing to complain about. 
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05-08-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RageInDaCage
and what im saying is, if may had the conditioning to make it two rounds, ur whole biding thing is sh*t. he done "done feeling out" jeremy when the dude was gassed and there was nothing to feel out. I said hypothetically if he did not gas, fight woulda been alot diff. and on top of that i said from the beginning this thread is about brown not being as tuff as everyone thinks, he pulls off more impressive wins down the line, ill gladly come back and say ur right, we'll just see how it plays out, this is just how i see it, it just seems to me the guy doubts himself.
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Did you see Brown's first fight this season?
It was a war against a bigger, intense, and very tough competitor. Matt Brown is a bad Mo Fo. If you doubt this, I suggest you watch that fight.
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