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Old 05-22-2008, 01:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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They might not have been very technical but atleast they showed somewhat developed skills, the guys on TUF1 came from very good backgrounds and already had notable fights before the show so they had technical skills.

The talent pool is just dwindling and it's no offense to Matt or Amir. Both guys just aren't there and aren't ready for the UFC yet, Amir being fairly new to the sport and Matt having a piss poor record. If either of these guys were on TUF1 they'd get crushed. Yeah it may seem easy to say that now since most TUF1 have established themselves, but even THEN they'd probably still get smashed.

Anyway let's not turn this into a TUF1 vs. TUF7 thread like you just tried to do. Comparing the two is pointless and it doesn't change the fact that both Amir and Matt are sloppy strikers so your argument is nullified.

Besides, when I said "Two sloppy, untechnical strikers always makes for a good slugfest.", it's not "bashing" as you put it. I just simply said two sloppy strikers will make a good slugfest which is a positive note...not a bad one, so stop trying to pick an argument sparky.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't know man, I just thought Amir's standup looked pretty decent for the minute he was standing. He did knock out some bum from IFL with a beauty knee and did land some good kicks, and a flying knee.

Maybe you're just pickier then me.

I think 3-4 guys with survive from the last season, and potentially 5 from this season. Not to bad when you compare to other seasons.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:45 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Eh I don't care where a guy is from, whether he fought in IFL or not. Gerald Harris is a one trick pony, dude did you see his stand-up? I don't think he even looked where he was throwing when the fight was on his feet and pretty much told Amir to knee him in the face.

From what I've seen from Amir in his first fight and his fight against Harris he has no stand-up but the fact that he's a scrappy, gritty, tough bastard makes up for it.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I am sure he'll be a lot better after training a lot more full time coming up to the finale. Dude has power, and looked to have a decent sprawl against a guy who said he wasn't tired.

It's tricky with the TUF fighters because you can't really judge them for like 2 years. It's like draft picks, some are busts and some turn out to be good.
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I don't know about decent sprawl, he was getting slammed to hell against Harris. As for power I really don't know, usually a knee to the face doesn't need much power to it, but like I said, he's just tough which helps a lot if you're not there stand-up wise.
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I'm really not impressed technically by anyone on the show yet.. None of them have absolutely overwhelming strengths (except maybe Dollaway with his wrestling), they all just seem very sloppy in all aspects. Sure, I'm saying this from the couch, but you can usually tell when someone's UFC-caliber.
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I don't really care how technical the fighters are on TUF. In my opinion this season has had more entertaining fights than any other season I can remember. Most fights have ended in KO's or subs and you can't knock that. There have been other seasons where almost every fight has gone to a decision and they haven't been very entertaining decisions. I guess I just watch show to be entertained and hopefully see a fun fight between 2 guys that really want to get to the UFC.
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I'm really not impressed technically by anyone on the show yet.. None of them have absolutely overwhelming strengths (except maybe Dollaway with his wrestling), they all just seem very sloppy in all aspects. Sure, I'm saying this from the couch, but you can usually tell when someone's UFC-caliber.
Tim's BJJ is pretty technical.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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As far as Alex_Delarge goes, Have you ever seen Matt Brown fight? he is super technical. He is a bit of a brawler at times but he still remains technical. Amir didnt seem too bad to me either, seemed fairly technical.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:20 AM   #20 (permalink)
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In the minute it was standing he knocked a dude out and through many shots that looked technical. I don't know, I thought Amirs' standup looked better then average and not to sloppy..
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