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Old 06-19-2008, 02:02 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I'd be pretty embarassed if one of my new hires was running around my hotel saying 'Do you know who I am?', kicking out windows, and telling people 'I am a UFC fighter'.

I understand why he did it, I probably would've done something different. He deserved some disipline, but man he destroyed the competition and earned that spot. He looked devastated and I felt like shit watching it. Hopefully he'll be back and face the winner in some hyped up UFN fight.
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:14 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Screaming "do you know who I am? I'm a UFC fighter" is a little less effective then coke and DUI charges.

Honestly dude, how many times do you think a young fighter in the UFC has gotten trashed and said something on the likes of that? It's not illegal, and he didn't hurt anyone.

There is no simple, rashional explanation why they kicked him off other then the fact they wanted CB back in the competition, plain and simple.
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It probably didn't help that Jesse wasn't the most entertaining fighter, but really I don't think it's that much about CB. I think Amir is 10x more marketable then CB to be quite honest, and probably has more raw potential.

Tim Credeur wasn't a guarentee win either, having CB lose twice would've left him looking really bad.

Still, Jesse deserved better.
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Yeah, Tim was pretty much a guarentee'd win, they may have underestimated him but Jesse Taylor controled him the entire fight, CB Dalloway would have done the same thing if he wasn't tenative to take him down after almost getting his arm snapped in half.

And you're absolutely right, Jesse was a boring fighter which didn't help him. Like I said before, Jesse is boring, CB was a hype machine and highly acclaimed on the show.

Put it this way, if CB Dalloway did the exact same thing Jesse did nothing would have been made of it. Hell we probably wouldn't even know of it, and if we did people would say "Haha CB that dude is crazy man!".
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Yeah, they destroyed the house, but Dana told him, "Be professional." They were told it was ok to destroy the house, who the hell told him it would be ok to kick out the window of a limo?
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Who told Melvin Guillard it was okay to have possession of crack?

Dude breaks a window, gets drunk and makes a scene and people are ready to crucify him as if he did something so vulgar and wrong and something that young guys in the UFC have never done before, get some morales people.
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Who told Melvin Guillard it was okay to have possession of crack?

Dude breaks a window, gets drunk and makes a scene and people are ready to crucify him as if he did something so vulgar and wrong and something that young guys in the UFC have never done before, get some morales people.
Melvin was put on probation also, and couldn't fight. If you watched the episode, Dana told him, "You have the physical talent, but you aren't where you need to be emotional and mentally. Go home, get your life together, and call me in a few months." Dana isn't just completely putting him aside, he's still going to give him a chance.
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So your case is if it's in the house it's fine, but outside it's not. Okay.
In so many words... Yes. TUF is a reality TV show my friend, the fighters are allowed, if not encouraged, to behave in a manner that elicits a reaction from fellow fighters and gets viewers to feel strongly about them one way or the other.

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Your second point was he got wasted and walked into a Fertitta Brothers casino and said "Do you know who I am?" Yes, this is clearly inexecusable since it was in a Fertitta Brothers casino and not another casino, or bar, or hotel, or club, or any kind of party where I'm sure countless other fighters have gotten drunk and got out of hand.

You know what, you're absolutely right, we have no idea what Jesse actually did too, so let's just do some math. He wasn't arrested, charges weren't pressed, he's a young guy in Vegas. Just shut up and put two and two together man. The guy hit on some girls, started to get loud, obnoxious, call them names. Security shows up and he says "Do you know who I am?".
Getting wasted is a reason for his behavior it's not an excuse. Yes being drunk and obnoxious, if not abusive and violent for all we know, to customers of your bosses business ventures should be grounds for immediate termination. Especially once he brings the UFC's name into it by saying he is with the UFC.

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Need I express this issue again because it's not coming in clear enoughm, Chris Leben was just PRISONED for another DUI after being shown as a full fledged drunk on TUF and threatening to kill and cripple people, oh yeah I forgot, because it's in the house that's okay. Yet he's still co-headlining a UFC fight against Michael Bisping, good thing CB Dalloway wasn't the replacement for Leben. And yet I express this again, Melvin Guillard got busted with possession of CRACK, Rob Emerson travels with a pack of fratboys and beats up random defenseless people on the streets. For the love of god get off this shit about how he "brought it on himself". He gets drunk like 90% of fighters in the UFC and who have gotten out of hand, but not excessive. JT was a clear victim of the UFC wanting a certain fighter in the finals and bam, opportunity came knocking.
You do not need to reiterate your point, to me at least, because I agreed with you that the UFC should be significantly more strict with fighters who break the law. Just thought I would reiterate that.

As to the no charges were filed so everything is ok, I've seen some horrible fights and displays in public that never resulted in legal action. So to say that since no charges were filed equates to "boys being boys," well that is not automatically the case.

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Those of you defending that Jesse Taylor deserved to get banished from the finale because of THIS seriously needs another outlook on life in general and really need to re-evaluate your morales. And more importantly, needs to quit being spoon fed by this whole "he lay and prays!" crap so this is a perfectly good reason to kick him out of the finale because CB Dalloway almost got his arm snapped in half.
Why should I get a new outlook on life because I think that people should face serious consequences for their own bad behavior. I liked Jesse on the show much more than CB. Although I don't know either of them personally, obviously, CB seemed like an arrogant douche and Jesse seemed like a lovable idiot. But it certainly seems possible that he has a serious substance abuse problem that leads him to act in a destructive manor.

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Yeah they didn't just put him back in the finals, but it was the fact that they knew they'd have an opportunity to bring him back and give him another shot. And they're not stupid, they knew that Tim didn't stand much of a chance against him. They figured CB would take him down like Jesse did and hold him there and that's what he WOULD have done, only I'm sure CB was tenative taking him down since he just came off from an arm bar loss.

Clear cut for CB to get to the finals, that's why this all happened. Boring wrestler, Rampages hype machine and #1 pick. This whole season Dana hyped up CB to be this machine, he clearly isn't, and that's why this happened.
Does CB have some large national following I don't know about?

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Does CB have some large national following I don't know about?
CB loves CB. That's all he needs.
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I distinctly remember from the episode Dana saying "That's it, he's out of the UFC".

And yes, Melvin Guillard could fight, in fact he fought Rich Clementi, to where he threatend to kill him before and after the fight.

I don't care what makes reality TV or not, destroying a house is about as ethical as getting drunk in public.

He were abusive and violent he would have been arrested and charges would have been dropped, neither of them occurred so it was him saying obscene words and being loud. Dude, if he "fought" at the casino it would have been shown on the episode. You're assuming way too much to back your theory up. The dude didn't fight anyone or get violent and yes, he would have been arrested. They would have said so on the show if anything of that occurrence happened and they wouldnt have brought it to him so gently if he got VIOLENT for christ sake.

When I said people need a new outlook on life I was just simply stating that these things happen ALL THE TIME and it's not a big deal, and I'm sure it's not the first time with a young UFC fighter. If people think this is the first time it's happened and the consequences were justified and that it was so wrong and vile, then yeah they need a new outlook on how they look at things.

No, but Dana did hype him up at the start of the show. I especially loved it when they mic'd up Dana White for CB's fight against Nick just to hear him say "This kid is ******* good man". Jesse isn't exciting, CB has credentials, no he doesn't have a large following but the odds are in favor towards him.
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