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Old 06-19-2008, 02:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So what should they do. Should they just declare Amir the winner. Should they have just let Tim fight him in the finale?

C.B. beat the most expierenced fighter in Tim and honestly there is no doubt if CB wins that they will do a rematch. Amir needs to fight someone in the finale and he and C.B. were obviously close skill wise.
It's a tough call. Honestly, I think CB was the best fighter in the house, but in MMA the best guy doesn't always win. Giving him another shot at Amir is fine, but I don't think it's cool to have the contract on the line in their rematch. Amir beat him, it's baisically like that win didn't matter.

BTW, I think AMir vs. Tim would be a way more entertaining fight than Amir vs. CB 2.
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Alright im tired of all of this crap. CB was working Amir, that armbar was sick and couldn't have been done better, but CB deserves his rematch he earned it. How did the UFC set up CB Vs Amir 2? By putting him against the most experienced fighter in the house and almost losing? I hope CB comes with a little more conditioning and works Amir.
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Alright im tired of all of this crap. CB was working Amir, that armbar was sick and couldn't have been done better, but CB deserves his rematch he earned it. How did the UFC set up CB Vs Amir 2? By putting him against the most experienced fighter in the house and almost losing? I hope CB comes with a little more conditioning and works Amir.
Thats bull dude you dont get a rematch automatically jsut by putting on a great fight for MOST of the fight and then losing it. If that were the case then why isnt the black dude he KO'ed with that knee getting a rematch? That's why it kinda seems like they got the chance to bring back CB and took advantage of it.

They should have put in Tim plane and simple no questions asked. It works like a bracket and there is one laid out on Wikipedia. Since CB and Tim both lost in the semi's and Amir all ready beat CB that leaves one possible candidate and that is Tim. By all logical reasoning that's how this should have gone down in all fairness to CB.

CB is a great wrestler yeah whatever I dont care because that's all he is really other than those wicked kicks that waists a quarter of his gas tank on every time. I dont care really because I don't see him vastly improving by Saturday while I see that Amir is probably working on the sprawl and TDD and hopefully wont rush in this time giving CB the take down.

Amir has way better stand up and use of kicks than Tim and Tim was lighting CB up int heir fight. Makes me think if Amir can learn to find his distance and circle better he is gonna avoid a lot more take down and maybe take this one int he later rounds via KO.
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Alright im tired of all of this crap. CB was working Amir, that armbar was sick and couldn't have been done better, but CB deserves his rematch he earned it. How did the UFC set up CB Vs Amir 2? By putting him against the most experienced fighter in the house and almost losing? I hope CB comes with a little more conditioning and works Amir.
He deserves his rematch, but not for the contract. I agree, however, that this is the only way it could have been done. I had hoped that they would have brought Tim into the finals because he lost to the guy that got kicked off the finale, but whatever.

Also, it doesn't matter how the fight was going before the arm bar. Does it matter that Sylvia was killing Big Nog before the choke? Not really.

The problem people are having is that CB is getting another chance to beat Amir for the Contract, not that there is a rematch. But like I said, I don't really know of any other way to do it.

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Thats bull dude you dont get a rematch automatically jsut by putting on a great fight for MOST of the fight and then losing it. If that were the case then why isnt the black dude he KO'ed with that knee getting a rematch? That's why it kinda seems like they got the chance to bring back CB and took advantage of it.

They should have put in Tim plane and simple no questions asked. It works like a bracket and there is one laid out on Wikipedia. Since CB and Tim both lost in the semi's and Amir all ready beat CB that leaves one possible candidate and that is Tim. By all logical reasoning that's how this should have gone down in all fairness to CB.

CB is a great wrestler yeah whatever I dont care because that's all he is really other than those wicked kicks that waists a quarter of his gas tank on every time. I dont care really because I don't see him vastly improving by Saturday while I see that Amir is probably working on the sprawl and TDD and hopefully wont rush in this time giving CB the take down.

Amir has way better stand up and use of kicks than Tim and Tim was lighting CB up int heir fight. Makes me think if Amir can learn to find his distance and circle better he is gonna avoid a lot more take down and maybe take this one int he later rounds via KO.
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K so lets give Amir the contract and not have a fight on the finale.

Anyone who says he should've fought Tim why? What's wrong with making Tim and CB fight to earn a spot in the finale.

Is it fair to Amir not completly but you guys are acting like this is the most horrible thing ever. He would've had to win another fight anyway so what does it matter if he already fought CB he can do it again.
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K so lets give Amir the contract and not have a fight on the finale.

Anyone who says he should've fought Tim why? What's wrong with making Tim and CB fight to earn a spot in the finale.

Is it fair to Amir not completly but you guys are acting like this is the most horrible thing ever. He would've had to win another fight anyway so what does it matter if he already fought CB he can do it again.
The fact is, they set the fights up in a bracket system, not a round robin system. With it being a bracket system, they should have had the loser replace the guy that beat him.

If it were a round robin system, I could see the fight at the end.
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I thought that they should have brought Tim up for the finals. It pretty much is a bracket set up that they are doing, so it would be the loser to the one that got kicked out that would move up in the brackets.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Amir already beat CB. Close or not, last second or not, he took him out with a superior execution of skills. How many times did we see Joyce on the bottom for 10-20 minutes looking like he was being dominated only to suddenly see the other guy tap out of nowhere? (No I am not comparing Amir to JG)
So CB should not have the right to fight him again and win the whole show.
If CB wins, they are just even and neither is the vitor. If CB wins we need a rubber match.

No matter what happens though, we will see a lot more of Amir. Ken Florian didn't win and he has done main events. Amir will get a contract anyway, even if it's not on that night.

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I don't get why everybody is complaining, CB still had to earn his way to the finals by beating Tim. The spot wasn't just given to him, is it because you are scared that CB will win?
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I don't get why everybody is complaining, CB still had to earn his way to the finals by beating Tim. The spot wasn't just given to him, is it because you are scared that CB will win?
No, it's not. What it is for me is that I don't really care to watch two guys fight twice in 3 days. It took all of the excitement out of this saturday when I found out that CB is going to be fighting Amir AGAIN. It just didn't seem like a good plan on the UFC's part.

Oh yeah, and I really hate Squishy face CB.
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I don't get why everybody is complaining, CB still had to earn his way to the finals by beating Tim. The spot wasn't just given to him, is it because you are scared that CB will win?
No, it's because he had to beat someone that he already beat.

Say it's football.

Packers vs. Giants for NFC championship
Colts vs. Patriots for AFC championship

Giants win(cause they did) and patriots win.
Patriots(for some strange reason) are penalized and not allowed to play against the giants in the superbowl.

They have an empty spot so they have the Packers play the Colts to determine who goes to the superbowl. Packers win, and the Giants have to beat them again to win the superbowl.

As has been said before, it was a bracket system. Tim should have been brought in simply because he lost to the guy that got kicked off.
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