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Old 06-20-2008, 03:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I understand what you're getting at, but I think it came down to a case of 'let's have the two losing semi-finalists duke it out for a spot in the finals' moreso than anything else. The fact is, Tim lost. So, do you simply hand him a spot in the finale despite that loss, or do you give him a chance to redeem himself, and thus earn his spot? I'm not saying he had to fight CB, and chances are, you're right about Dana wanting CB in the finale, but to just give Tim that spot would have been a tad empty, would it not? Just tossing it out there. Feel free to respond.
I get where you're coming from, I just don't think it's fair that Amir should have to fight someone he already beat.

I don't watch every TUF season, but I'd imagine that we haven't seen two guys who have already fought one another in the finals against each other again?

Tim may have lost to Jesse, but the winner of C.B.'s bracket in the finale is STILL in the finals. Sure, it makes good television to have C.B. fight Tim for the final spot, but really, Tim was more deserving, as he was the semi-finalist of his bracket, and he had not lost to Amir.

I understand entirely what you're saying, I just don't think C.B. really deserves to fight Amir again, when Amir bested him already.
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Old 06-20-2008, 03:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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And in that respect, some might say that while Amir beat CB, he was losing rather decisively up until that armbar. Trust me when I say that I know a win is a win, no matter how you slice it, but this bout is that much more interesting because of their past encounter. Will CB fight cautiously this time out? Will he go for take-downs, knowing that Amir caught him once before? Or will he stand and bang, knowing that Amir had his number in respect to stand-up? In that same light, will Amir be able to pull off a shock win one more time? Seeing one fighter get manhandled, yet pull off a shock win just begs for a rematch, so I'm most definitely interested. Like I said, though, I do get your point, and trust me... I'm a big fan of Tim, and would like nothing more than to see him go far in the UFC. I actually think Tim vs. Amir could have been a fine finale.

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Old 06-20-2008, 03:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If the finale spot becomes available, 2 loosers of semi-finals should face each other to determine who takes it. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Why did Tim deserve to walk right in?! Make him fight for it.

Bottom line is, Tim is not that good of a fighter. He barely escaped Riddle, and lost to Jesse and CB. He's an older fighter, that doesn't have many years left.

I hope he makes it, I just don't see it happening.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Why did Tim deserve to walk right in?! Make him fight for it.
The point is, that Tim shouldn't have had to participate in an additional fight against C.B. because Amir already beat him. If C.B. wins on saturday, there's no definitive "TUF winner" this season, because the two fighters would be 1-1 against each other.

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Bottom line is, Tim is not that good of a fighter. He barely escaped Riddle, and lost to Jesse and CB. He's an older fighter, that doesn't have many years left.
I'm not even a Tim Credeur fan, never claimed to be. In fact, I resented him for his trash talk antics about "man strength" and "boy strength" prior to his fight with Riddle.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Actually, after thinking about it more, he wasn't screwed off. If tim got sent into the fianls after losing, he would of gotten in with the same amount of wins/losses as CD, and considering they both lost their semi-final match, it makes sense they would fight.
I don't think Tim was screwed over at all now.
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I'm not even a Tim Credeur fan, never claimed to be. In fact, I resented him for his trash talk antics about "man strength" and "boy strength" prior to his fight with Riddle.
Haha, I thought that was rather funny. Same with his comments about wanting to bring the hurt to what's his name for being the 'prettiest' fighter on the show, haha. I'm rooting for Tim as far as a UFC run goes. God knows another half decent MW fighter couldn't hurt.
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It seems to me that people arent really upset for Tim but are upset that Tim didnt get to the final giving Amir a better chance. I mean come on we all know Amir would pulverize Tim.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It's a very standard practice in bracket tournaments for the two fighters who lost in the semis to fight to determine 3rd place. But since #2 was kicked off the 3rd place guy just bumps up to #2.
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It's too bad that Dana was hugging CB's nuts throughout the whole show. He obviously likes the guy and immediately wanted to bring him back into the fold.

I would have rather seen Tim and another guy that lost to Jesse duke it out to get into the finale. It seems like a ripoff that Amir has to beat CB twice to win. Somebody who lost to Jesse should have got the shot opportunity to get into the finale.

I'm pretty confident that Tim is not UFC worthy and I'm pretty confident that CB at this point in his career is not UFC worthy either. If I thought one of them was at that point I'd probably care more but as long as Amir wins I won't have a problem.
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