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Old 06-22-2008, 04:49 PM   #41 (permalink)
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hmm, that doesn't make sence 75% of guys who tap only tap twice? and the fight gets stoped. and if thats the case why wasn't the fight restarted?

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Old 06-22-2008, 04:50 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:53 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Pyros one tap doesn't make sense. One tap can be anthing an open palm slap, a guy trying to grab something. It is three taps just like in submission grappling and BJJ where MMA got the rule from.
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I can't believe that anyone is defending CB on this one. Not only did he obviously tap, but it looked like he did that on purpose to see if he could weasel out of the hold and keep the match going.

From his reaction he looked to be complaining at the exact moment that Amir let go of his arm. He's a poor sport and an over rated fighter with no future in the UFC.

Herb Dean did an excellent job with the stoppage, he was standing right there, he identified that the hold was in deep and was all over the tap to ensure the safety of the fighter. The .gif in this thread shows that he clearly tapped, I would rather have the ref stop it when something like that happens than wait to confirm. A broken arm, Tim Sylvia style, seems to be a little too much confirmation for my taste
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
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He tapped his leg with his palm. He didn't use any force to hurt him or to grab anything. He tapped. Simple as that.

MANY fighters have tapped ONCE and the fight got stopped and they didn't spaz out.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:58 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Pyros one tap doesn't make sense. One tap can be anthing an open palm slap, a guy trying to grab something. It is three taps just like in submission grappling and BJJ where MMA got the rule from.
I don't know man, that would enable people to start making "fake taps" and some fighters would let go of the pressure because they don't want to cripple their opponents.
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Well first off a fighter should hold a submission until the ref steps in. Second the universal rule is three taps and I'm not really all that mad about it my only real point is that in the heat of the moment after he tapped one time and then clearly went back to defending why doesn't CB have the right to be upset?

It's a perfectly resonable IMO.
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But if CB would have understood that Amir's mullet was too powerful for his own lip, this would have never happened.
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
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You do realize what your saying is bullshit. A tap is a tap. If it was 3 taps we would have all sorts of 1 tap fakes, 2 tap fakes, 2.5 tap fakes. You are cry baby too. Your big lip lay and prayer lost. Get over it!


A tap is a tap. So if his arm, breaks after the second tap is that ok? If he is unconsious but the ref cannot see his face do we let it go till he dies? You are an idiot!


Also here is a copy of the Unified Rules Of MMA:

[edit] Ways to victory

Knockout (KO): as soon as a fighter becomes unconscious due to strikes, his opponent is declared the winner. As MMA rules allow ground fighting, the fight is stopped to prevent further injury to an unconscious fighter.
Submission: a fighter may admit defeat during a match by:
a tap on the opponent's body;
a tap on the mat or floor;

verbal announcement.
Technical Knockout (TKO)
Referee Stoppage: the referee may stop a match in progress if:
a fighter becomes dominant to the point where the opponent is unable to intelligently defend himself from attacks, which may occur as quickly as a few seconds;
a fighter appears to be unconscious from a grappling hold;
a fighter appears to have developed significant injuries in the referee's view, such as a broken bone.
Doctor Stoppage: the referee will call for a time out if a fighter's ability to continue is in question as a result of apparent injuries, such as a large cut. The ring doctor will inspect the fighter and stop the match if the fighter is deemed unable to continue safely, rendering the opponent the winner. However, if the match is stopped as a result of an injury from illegal actions by the opponent, either a disqualification or no contest will be issued instead. In order to avoid doctor stoppages, fighters employ cutmen, whose job is to treat cuts and hematomas between rounds to prevent them from becoming significant enough to cause a doctor stoppage.
Corner stoppage: a fighter's corner men may announce defeat on the fighter's behalf by throwing in the towel during the match in progress or between rounds.
Decision: if the match goes the distance, then the outcome of the bout is determined by three judges. The judging criteria are organization-specific.
Forfeit: a fighter or his representative may forfeit a match prior to the beginning of the match, thereby losing the match.
Disqualification: a "warning" will be given when a fighter commits a foul or illegal action or does not follow the referee's instruction. Three warnings will result in a disqualification. Moreover, if a fighter is injured and unable to continue due to a deliberate illegal technique from his opponent, the opponent will be disqualified.
No Contest: in the event that both fighters commit a violation of the rules, or a fighter is unable to continue due to an injury from an accidental illegal technique, the match will be declared a "No Contest".


Below is a cut/paste from www.UFC.com:


Ways To Win: [Top]
1. Submission by:
Physical tap out.
Verbal tap out.

2. Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
3. Decision via the scorecards, including:
Unanimous decision [all judges pick the same fighter as the winner].
Split decision [One judge picks one fighter, the other two judges pick the other fighter].
Majority decision [two of three judges pick the same fighter as the winner].
Draw, including:
Unanimous draw.
Majority draw.
Split draw.
4. Technical decision.
5. Technical draw.
6. Disqualification.
7. Forfeit.
8. No contest.


Where does ot say three times? It says by " a TAP" that is singular. This is a Rules Book, so it would be very specific about something like that. It

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Old 06-22-2008, 06:35 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Wow lets see. Lets say you guys are right and that's the rule. Well the majority of people including fighters think that you have to tap multiple times. Because that is how it works in grappling and BJJ.

So CB tapped once reconsidered and tried to defend. When the fight was stopped he was upset because he didn't know the rule who is that being a crybaby?

Watch his postfight interview he's very respectful of Amir.

And on another note calm the f*ck down. CB thought the stoppage was unfair in the heat of the moment he got up and was upset with it why is that being a cry baby.

Also have you seen a tap. The fighter doesn't take his time he taps three times quickly. And also he was in an armbar if he was in that much pain he could've easily verbally submitted.
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