Boo

Talent and training are two completely different things. A guy could have superior raw talent, but if he doesn't train correctly, he still gets beat. BJ Penn is a good example of this.

Shoney talks about this himself in the first episode. He says that in his training camp he is top dog and therefore no one is there to push him. Now being surrounded by these others fighters has obviously pushed Shoney more (till he pukes), but great coaches could do even more for him and the others.

There is a reason why it has become more common for fighters to have one main camp, but do a lot of training at other camps. It's to round out their game, to challenge themselves more, to learn different techniques. This is the reason the Miletich camp has been so successful. Other camps/fighters are starting to catch on to this strategy.

What you mention about proving themselves to Dana. I don't think what I suggest takes anything away from that. It's still up to the individual fighter to listen to the advice given, to push himself in training, and to have the heart to compete. My suggestions just give them the tools they need to succeed.

Fighter J

I like the way the other TUF's were, where they had coaches and they had to do what they said and get trained by them, and compete. I agree with boo. I think if they got coached more theyed learn a lot more. And if they are trying to prove their talent to dana i think it would still be better to have a coach. Even if they have talent but like boo said if you dont train right you will never really use all talent that they have.

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Favorite Fighters
1 GSP(gonna beat hughes at UFC 65)
2 Fedor Emelianenko
3 Sean Sherk
4 BJ Penn

NitZR

i thought that the coaching situation could have been better. or I guess i mean the fact the had coaches to train with and some of them decided not to use them. If i had GSP, Randy Couture, Rich Franklin, and CHuck Liddell man i would so be stoked. I would have a rst day i would have trained with them as much as i could.