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Old 09-25-2008, 12:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm not. He looks like a whiny douche.
When was he acting like a whiny douche??
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, it makes UFC look a little worse, i guess, but i respect Dana for being honest.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If this were a fight on an actual card I could understand but this is on a TUF pre-prelim fight so I gots no problem with it. Should Mir and Nog not be shouting out instructions since these guys aren't technically "in the house" yet?
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If this were a fight on an actual card I could understand but this is on a TUF pre-prelim fight so I gots no problem with it. Should Mir and Nog not be shouting out instructions since these guys aren't technically "in the house" yet?
Why not? What else would give them a good indication of whether the fighter listens to instructions from his corner?

Also, it looks to me like each fighter is given to either Mir or Nog's team to be coached for the fights. They enter the octagon with the coaches from either Nog or Mir's camp, and then gets instructed by them.

It all sounds good to me.

There is nothing I hate worse than a fighter, especially a fighter that is practically a nobody such as the TUF fighters, ignoring his gameplan and the comments from his corner. It just reeks of hubris.
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advising fighters to not leave any given fight in the hands of judges is excellent advice. Too many times it seems like one or more judges is watching a different fight or something along those lines. I am glad that things worked out in such a way to allow the fighter who lost a second chance. I also believed that he won the fight based upon what was shown.
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I thought I saw the judges there at the end of the fight while everyone was bitching loudly about the decision and they all had huge grins on their faces.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Why not? What else would give them a good indication of whether the fighter listens to instructions from his corner?

Also, it looks to me like each fighter is given to either Mir or Nog's team to be coached for the fights. They enter the octagon with the coaches from either Nog or Mir's camp, and then gets instructed by them.

It all sounds good to me.

There is nothing I hate worse than a fighter, especially a fighter that is practically a nobody such as the TUF fighters, ignoring his gameplan and the comments from his corner. It just reeks of hubris.
Davisty69 I was trying to draw the comparison to their coaching and Dana's remark either of each was all good to me. I didn't have a problem with them shouting instructions out or with Dana's comment.
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Davisty69 I was trying to draw the comparison to their coaching and Dana's remark either of each was all good to me. I didn't have a problem with them shouting instructions out or with Dana's comment.
I actually have an issue with Mir and Nog cornering the fighters.

That is the evaluation time. Now it'll be really hard for a guy to impress Mir if Mir is focused on what his opponent is doing.

It IMO is unfair to the fighters.
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Sorry but---- these judges SUCK A$$---- somethings has got to give.

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I actually have an issue with Mir and Nog cornering the fighters.

That is the evaluation time. Now it'll be really hard for a guy to impress Mir if Mir is focused on what his opponent is doing.

It IMO is unfair to the fighters.
bbjd7- I'll be completely honest I watched this episode while doing other things so I wasn't glued to everything going on but I thought that each fighter was given access to either Mir or Nog's assistant coaches(as cornermen) which meant that Mir and Nog had a hand or at least knowledge about certain fighters' abilities going into the fights.

What I saw was obviously Mir and Nog rooting and giving instructions to their assistant coaches' fighters. They were evaluating but at the same time obviously trying to help "their guy" out. Since it's allowed for them to "coach" while supposedly "evaulating" each fighter I agree it could be unfair but as the OP stated a problem with what Dana said I can't see a problem with what Mir and Nog were doing since, fairly or unfairly, it is allowed.

Quite honestly I think they might want to change this as obviously it creates bias on evaulating the fighters. But as is this is allowed and probably should be addressed in the next TUF as these fights should be evaulated by the coaches without bias towards their "fighters"(mainly since their assistant coaches are already coaching them) to truly assess the fighters abilities.
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