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post #21 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-25-2008, 11:46 PM
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bbjd7- I'll be completely honest I watched this episode while doing other things so I wasn't glued to everything going on but I thought that each fighter was given access to either Mir or Nog's assistant coaches(as cornermen) which meant that Mir and Nog had a hand or at least knowledge about certain fighters' abilities going into the fights.

What I saw was obviously Mir and Nog rooting and giving instructions to their assistant coaches' fighters. They were evaluating but at the same time obviously trying to help "their guy" out. Since it's allowed for them to "coach" while supposedly "evaulating" each fighter I agree it could be unfair but as the OP stated a problem with what Dana said I can't see a problem with what Mir and Nog were doing since, fairly or unfairly, it is allowed.

Quite honestly I think they might want to change this as obviously it creates bias on evaulating the fighters. But as is this is allowed and probably should be addressed in the next TUF as these fights should be evaulated by the coaches without bias towards their "fighters"(mainly since their assistant coaches are already coaching them) to truly assess the fighters abilities.
Yea I don't have an issue with Mir or Nog as much as I do the rules in place because their aren't really rules and it puts some of the fighters in an unfair position where even by winning the coach isn't impressed by them because they are focused on their guy.

I mean look at the last fight from last night.

Mir obviously didn't pay much attention to the guy who won the fight he was focused on Marshall who he cornered.
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This is true, but unless there is a real downside to one coach or the other, I wouldn't say it's unfair really. Win your fight and you get to train with some of the best MMA coaches in the world, no matter what team picks you up. Yes it would be better if both coaches were able to corner every fighter at least once before making a pick, but then that's not really possible in such a short time frame. Just because someone impresses you, doesn't mean they will listen to you.

The current setup is MUCH better than before, with the coaches picking simply based on 1 workout, and reviewing tape from other orgs.

Penn/Pulver was a perfect example. Everyone wanted to be on BJ's team, but Pulver clearly came out as the better coach.
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this is a reality show..... people speaking their mind is a part of it. HOWEVER..... Joe Rogan saying LIVE at ufc 88 that he thought Matt Brown won the fight is very out of place imo

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This is true, but unless there is a real downside to one coach or the other, I wouldn't say it's unfair really. Win your fight and you get to train with some of the best MMA coaches in the world, no matter what team picks you up. Yes it would be better if both coaches were able to corner every fighter at least once before making a pick, but then that's not really possible in such a short time frame. Just because someone impresses you, doesn't mean they will listen to you.

The current setup is MUCH better than before, with the coaches picking simply based on 1 workout, and reviewing tape from other orgs.

Penn/Pulver was a perfect example. Everyone wanted to be on BJ's team, but Pulver clearly came out as the better coach.
The point is they aren't supposed to be cornering the fighters they are supposed to be observing the fights. So by cornering the fighters they are getting a one sided view of the fight.
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