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r00kie 10-29-2008 11:07 PM

On Jules and Vinny
 
Wow, Jules was BAD, he talks alot of smack and his standup is horrible, his ground game worst he got submited in 5 second... hahahaha...

On Vinny, I dont see him winning TUF with that kind of standup, was he scared of Jules or what ? This guy might be really good on the ground, I dont see him taking a volley of punch.

IMO, it will be Bader vs Marshall vs Krystof, there is no way Vinny standup can save him against those guys

Canadian Psycho 10-29-2008 11:17 PM

Vinny has some serious kicks. If he can worry more about landing those, along with a few punches here and there, he may well become a complete fighter in time. That said, you can tell that he doesn't want to eat a jab, himself, and this is likely holding him back. You don't get into MMA expecting never to eat a shot. Or two.

dontazo 10-29-2008 11:17 PM

his jitz is ******* sick

RaisingCajun 10-29-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Psycho (Post 696227)
Vinny has some serious kicks. If he can worry more about landing those, along with a few punches here and there, he may well become a complete fighter in time. That said, you can tell that he doesn't want to eat a jab, himself, and this is likely holding him back. You don't get into MMA expecting never to eat a shot. Or two.

Did you see the damage on Jules's ribs when the doctors was checking his arm? Dont know how much pain he was in but the ribs did not look pretty.

UFC_CHIC 10-30-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by r00kie (Post 696216)
Wow, Jules was BAD, he talks alot of smack and his standup is horrible, his ground game worst he got submited in 5 second... hahahaha...

On Vinny, I dont see him winning TUF with that kind of standup, was he scared of Jules or what ? This guy might be really good on the ground, I dont see him taking a volley of punch.

IMO, it will be Bader vs Marshall vs Krystof, there is no way Vinny standup can save him against those guys

I DON'T THINK HE WAS SCARED OF JULES AT ALL. I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO THROW HIM OFF, BUT REGARDLESS IT WORKED, CAUSE JULES DEFINITELY MADE THIS THE WORSE FIGHT FOR SURE. HE DONE NOTHING AT ALL...SAD!

UFC_CHIC 10-30-2008 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RaisingCajun (Post 696254)
Did you see the damage on Jules's ribs when the doctors was checking his arm? Dont know how much pain he was in but the ribs did not look pretty.

VINNY KICKED HIM IN THE SIDE A FEW TIMES, BUT 1 GOOD TIME I KNOW FOR SURE. I THINK VINNY'S GROUND GAME WILL BE PHENOMENAL IF WE GET TO SEE IT FOR MORE THAN 5 SECONDS..LOL:thumbsup:

americanfighter 10-30-2008 12:30 AM

vinny has one hell of a ground game I though he was going for a gogoplata as well but that was an awesome arm bar.

prop to jules for not going off on team nog after the whole body bag thing. He has a good steady mind set and doesnt let his emotions get the best of him which is something all the elite fighters have.

Dtwizzy2k5 10-30-2008 12:49 AM

Jules sucks and should quit fighting. He doesnt have what it takes mentally to be a successful fighter and you could tell he was just afraid in his fight against Vinny.
As for Vinny, he has really good jiu jitsu obviously but his standup could use a bit of work. He is very strong/athletic and landed some great kicks, though, and with some teaching Vinny could be worked into a more complete and successful fighter.

TraMaI 10-30-2008 12:50 AM

TBH I wasnt all that impressed with either of them. Both of their stand-up looked subpar and they both looked really gun shy the entire fight. Vinny wanted no part of getting hit and I have no idea WTF Jules was doing that entire fight. Jules damn near put HIMSELF in that armbar and TBH that was way overkill setting it up like that on Vinnys part. He couldve easily finished him with a textbook armbar, instead of what looked like a failed gogo. Eliot Marshall takes that fight with him no matter where it goes. His Jiujitsu looks much better (yes you can tell quite a bit by about 10 seconds of grappling, and that arm was fed to Vinny) and his standup is way ahead even if it ISNT the best. Only person who I see eeking out a decision over Eliot would be Bader and I think that'll be tough to do

_Destruction_ 10-30-2008 02:06 AM

Jules looked horrible.I dont think it was his technique, he just had a really bad case of stage fright.He just froze up out there.I dont think he's cut out to be a fighter.


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