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Old 10-30-2008, 10:45 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Didnt Ricco Rodriguez submit Nog in one of the competitions??

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i just watched the episode... NOG is being a cry baby if you ask me. he is being way too dramatic. It kind of reminded me of Rocky 5 were Rocky is talking to Tommy and is like "I ******* LOVED YOU MAN HOW COULD YOU DO THAT" haha
Nog liked vinny and he also told vinny while they were have the argument that he liked him and was looking forward to training him and teaching him things. Then Nog hears that vinny is being disrespectful to him and it really hurt his feelings. Whats wrong with that?
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Vinny's BJJ is great, but better than Nog's? Maybe in strictly BJJ competition, but I'd wager Nog's the better grappler in MMA.

How did Nog do in BJJ competitions anyway? Did he even bother with them? He's grappled against guys that have won ADCC and done just fine.
Well when he was talking to Mir that's what they were talking about just BJJ.

Nog never was a top grappler in the world. I don't know if it's just that he got distracted by MMA or that he wasn't good enough but he isn't Werdum, Pe de Pano or Roger Gracie in pure BJJ. And Vinny is better then him as well.

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lol you have over 8000 posts and you come out with crap like this? made me laugh a bit irl.

also what's your obsession with new jersey? just because you come from there doesn't mean you have to love everything about it. really puzzles me when people act that way
In pure BJJ Vinny is a much better grappler then Nogueira.

In fact if they had a grappling match tomorrow I would put money on Vinny.

Also I like Jersey I take pride in the fact we finally have fighters in the UFC something we never had before.

In fact until September we had one guy born in and trained in Jersey in the UFC. So I was cheering for Pellegrino and Almedia just for some association with Jersey.
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I thought Nog over reacted... also it seemed like Nog's team over exaggerated about what was said. I missed some of the episode, so I could be wrong.. but were they referring to the convo mir and vinny had? If so, they said vinny was saying this to him.. they made it sound like vinny was going around running his mouth to everyone about how nog isnt that good at bjj... but in reality he was just talking to mir and didnt even say anything that bad.
Read Roli's blog, vinny was going around the house telling Nog's team that Nog's jitz isn't at a high level. They didn't show this part on camera tho.
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I think that Nog really kinda wanted to get vinny but then Mir grabbed him up...Since I believe that I also think that Nog had a higher expectation from Vinny being a fellow countryman and bjj practitioner.......Ultimately it just comes down to lack of respect.....
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Well when he was talking to Mir that's what they were talking about just BJJ.

Nog never was a top grappler in the world. I don't know if it's just that he got distracted by MMA or that he wasn't good enough but he isn't Werdum, Pe de Pano or Roger Gracie in pure BJJ. And Vinny is better then him as well.

In pure BJJ Vinny is a much better grappler then Nogueira.

In fact if they had a grappling match tomorrow I would put money on Vinny.

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That's just not true. Vinny is 3-2 in MMA now.....whippeee!! Nog has 2 belts, and umpteen fights under him.

Like I said in an earlier post, Vinny may be more technical, but Nog would hurt him, badly if they were to meet.

Vinny needs to learn how to fight MMA. BJJ is 1 small aspect of MMA, as was seen quite clearly in last night's show. Vinny was talking crap prior to the fight (so was Jules), and he did not know what to do in the ring (neither did Jules).

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They were talking about BJJ. He never said he's a better fighter. He said he has better BJJ. And guess what he does.
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That's just not true. Vinny is 3-2 in MMA now.....whippeee!! Nog has 2 belts, and umpteen fights under him.

Like I said in an earlier post, Vinny may be more technical, but Nog would hurt him, badly if they were to meet.

Vinny needs to learn how to fight MMA. BJJ is 1 small aspect of MMA, as was seen quite clearly in last night's show. Vinny was talking crap prior to the fight (so was Jules), and he did not know what to do in the ring (neither did Jules).
1. Learn to quote.
2. Learn to read. He said Vinny was better at bjj/grappling not mma/fighting.
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1. Learn to quote.
2. Learn to read. He said Vinny was better at bjj/grappling not mma/fighting.
1. Bite me
2. Who cares if he is better at BJJ, this is the UFC. There is obviously more to the UFC then just BJJ skills. Is he a better gardener too?

Gheesh!

Further, Nog is there to train MMA fighters, not BJJ artists. If anything, Vinny should keep his f'in mouth closed and listen to the big man. He may actually learn something!

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The whole issue wasn't that Vinny said he was a better fighter. Vinny said he was better at Jiu Jitsu and guess what he is.

Although I would put my money on Robert Drysdale if they had a TUF grapping competition.
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That's just not true. Vinny is 3-2 in MMA now.....whippeee!! Nog has 2 belts, and umpteen fights under him.

Like I said in an earlier post, Vinny may be more technical, but Nog would hurt him, badly if they were to meet.

Vinny needs to learn how to fight MMA. BJJ is 1 small aspect of MMA, as was seen quite clearly in last night's show. Vinny was talking crap prior to the fight (so was Jules), and he did not know what to do in the ring (neither did Jules).
Edit: Better late than never.

You saw the part where he said, if they had a grappling match, right?
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