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Old 10-30-2008, 08:55 PM   #61 (permalink)
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lol you have over 8000 posts and you come out with crap like this? made me laugh a bit irl.

Vinny has to be considered more advanced in that department. After all, he has better sub-grappling credentials and has competed at the highest levels of BJJ recently where as it's been nearly a decade since Nog has.

Also, we need to realize that Nog's BJJ game is completely adapted to MMA at this point and has been for years. His BJJ, in comparison to Vinny's, likely is basic. After all, Nog rarely fights opponents who are world-class BJJ artists. And when he does (e.g. the Werdum fight) it's MMA and there are many other variables when striking comes into play which separates him from them. Nog developing a more streamlined or basic form of BJJ as a means of adapting it to MMA is just that. And of course, while Vinny may have gone further in the BJJ world and could beat Nog in a submission grappling match, chances are he won't come close to doing half of what Nog has done in MMA, nor would he win a head-to-head matchup.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:09 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Vinny has to be considered more advanced in that department. After all, he has better sub-grappling credentials and has competed at the highest levels of BJJ recently where as it's been nearly a decade since Nog has.

Also, we need to realize that Nog's BJJ game is completely adapted to MMA at this point and has been for years. His BJJ, in comparison to Vinny's, likely is basic. After all, Nog rarely fights opponents who are world-class BJJ artists. And when he does (e.g. the Werdum fight) it's MMA and there are many other variables when striking comes into play which separates him from them. Nog developing a more streamlined or basic form of BJJ as a means of adapting it to MMA is just that. And of course, while Vinny may have gone further in the BJJ world and could beat Nog in a submission grappling match, chances are he won't come close to doing half of what Nog has done in MMA, nor would he win a head-to-head matchup.
I agree totally and think that this is a decent explanation of the situation, I understand Nog gettin pissed still i said it earlier......It just comes down to respect..Nog didnt expect that outta Vindoochie.....
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Old 10-31-2008, 06:12 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Scar on his back = Minotauro, so yes it's Big Nog unless I'm seeing things.

Wasn't Vinny sitting next to Machida when they were celebrating Nog's Birthday? Maybe he took it like one of his friends is talking shit behind his back. Maybe that's why he was saying "now we're enemies".
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:10 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I thought Nog was going to cry, I really did.

I hope Mir recks him. I doubt it though.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:11 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Judging by the fact that Vinny's hair colour gave away the fact the show was heavily edited and not in chronological order, I don't know what to believe. However we've all seen how proud Nog is of being a coach and how much he cares about the guys so I definitely don't think he'd be like that with Vinny over nothing.

It's the case for any reality show and has happened in the past with TUF but god, the editing annoys me no end. I interview people for a magazine and I know how easy it is to make someone look really bad just by printing one quote that could be taken in a variety of ways.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:32 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:55 AM   #67 (permalink)
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I take back what I said earlier (I hadn't watched the episode 7 yet only saw the fight) Vinny probably does have better BJJ than Nog.

The thing that irritated Nog the most is Vinny talking about what level of BJJ Nog has, you notice it's the first thing he mentions to Vinny "You say i'm not higher level" or something along those lines. They got along well before this dispute and I think Nog even offered to train Vinny. So when someone disrespects you like that after forming a mutual friendship it's bound to be humiliating.

Vinny just crossed the line with a few things said to Mir but Mir was just as bad imo.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:20 AM   #68 (permalink)
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1. Bite me
2. Who cares if he is better at BJJ, this is the UFC. There is obviously more to the UFC then just BJJ skills. Is he a better gardener too?
1. No thanks.
2. Are you missing the point intentionally?
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:52 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Well Vinny posted a blog about it on mmaweekly.com so i guess everyone should check it out because he does state that all he said was that his credentials were better in bjj and that he only said this because he was asked.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:25 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Well, one thing is for sure the show will not be won on BJJ alone and thats all Vinny has at this point, albeit it is pretty awesome BJJ.
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