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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 04:09 AM
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I agree. I keep saying it but that is because it is true.

Vinny has no standup. He was getting kicked at will and he kept losing his balance when he was throwing punches, and not very good punches I might add. Him and Dean Lister could have a D level standup war.

That being said, his ground game is excellent. I just think he is too one dimensional right now. He has time to improve, though. I do think he is a good fighter. So is Lister, by the way.

Bader on the other hand has great wrestling, decent standup, and power. If Vinny can't pull guard or take Bader down, I don't think he will do so well.

Bader should keep this fight standing and if he is able to, he will do very well in my opinion.

1- Those fights were 6months ago.
2- Bader was losing on his feet against a bjj guy, not a striker: Bader doesn't have a decent stand up.
3- Krzysztof is a striker, and barely touched Vinny... Did he kick Vinny's legs? Yes, he did, but you won't knock anybody "out" with leg kicks.
4- Vinny is currently training full time at Xtreme Couture.
5- I said a few times that he was going to win by sub. and he did
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1- Those fights were 6months ago.
2- Bader was losing on his feet against a bjj guy, not a striker: Bader doesn't have a decent stand up.
3- Krzysztof is a striker, and barely touched Vinny... Did he kick Vinny's legs? Yes, he did, but you won't knock anybody "out" with leg kicks.
4- Vinny is currently training full time at Xtreme Couture.
5- I said a few times that he was going to win by sub. and he did
4. Are you sure? I heard he was training somewhere else.
5. Congrats, 80% of the internet had vinny winning by sub.. want a trophy?
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4. Are you sure? I heard he was training somewhere else.
5. Congrats, 80% of the internet had vinny winning by sub.. want a trophy?
LOL, gave me a good laugh.
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Fun thing: That armbar is almost exactly the same as my favourite armbar from guard. Nice to see some good people are doing it too, so I don't have to change too much

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I don't know if Vinny will be able to get Bader to the ground.
I think Bader is definitely in danger of submission on the ground, but if he can use his TDD and punch Vinny long enough...like Mashall said Black belts turn into Brown belts when they start taking punches.
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LOL....how many times did Vinny ""slip" after throwing a wild overhand?


If you pay attention, after awhile he was just baiting Krystof
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1- Those fights were 6months ago.
2- Bader was losing on his feet against a bjj guy, not a striker: Bader doesn't have a decent stand up.
3- Krzysztof is a striker, and barely touched Vinny... Did he kick Vinny's legs? Yes, he did, but you won't knock anybody "out" with leg kicks.
4- Vinny is currently training full time at Xtreme Couture.
5- I said a few times that he was going to win by sub. and he did
1. Marshall also had a 4 inch reach advantage and Bader didn't do bad in the standup.
2. Vinny probably has the worst standup in the house.
3. 6 months isn't enough to improve such a standup game.
4. Bader DOES have decent standup and he has power. Decent is all you need to beat Vinny in that category.

Vinny better hope he is able to pull guard because I don't think he can take Bader down or out strike him.

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I admire Vinny's skills. But I disliked his condescending attitude towards Noguiera, thus I rooted for Kryzstof.

Vinny will sub Bader. This guy has made some very technical subs look easy to do.

I'd still like to see Noguiera kicks Vinny's ass.
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3- Krzysztof is a striker, and barely touched Vinny... Did he kick Vinny's legs? Yes, he did, but you won't knock anybody "out" with leg kicks.
You can still get a TKO with leg kicks. Ask Mighty Mo.



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You can still get a TKO with leg kicks. Ask Mighty Mo.
And on the receiving end, Robbie Lawler.
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