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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 02:41 PM
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I think Bader will end up beating Vinny in the finals. Bader has better stand up than Vinny and better wrestling I dont see Vinny getting Bader down. I am not saying he had to take stupid chances and get subbed but maybe posture up and throw some strikes, attempt some basic guard passes, try pinning down an arm or something. Just show that you are working to improve your position or finish the fight. Its like he decided as soon as he got the takedown "well this round is over, just two more and I win" I just dont agree with that.
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post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 02:44 PM
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I see Vinny pulling guard the second they lock up, followed by a submission shortly after. It won't be an issue of Bader taking him down, but Bader being pulled into guard. A wrestling background doesn't give you a lot of training on how to avoid being pulled into guard, that is pretty contrary to the concepts of wrestling.
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Man, one performance like that and it will take a lot for him to ever win me over again.

I respect fighters in defeat all the time if they at least go for it, which he didnt.
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Man, one performance like that and it will take a lot for him to ever win me over again.

I respect fighters in defeat all the time if they at least go for it, which he didnt.

i would agree with the 2nd statement, but dont forget he fights again in 2weeks. in your eyes ''going for it'' may be different then how it really is. bader already knew he was winning, why expel excess energy? why risk getting emotional for a more impressive win? its as if a fighter that doesnt go all out with hand strikes, is a scrub. which is furthest from the truth..... remember this guy is trying to win a tournament. not just a single fight. if he did what your saying then vinny would know everything to expect from him.
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i would agree with the 2nd statement, but dont forget he fights again in 2weeks. in your eyes ''going for it'' may be different then how it really is. bader already knew he was winning, why expel excess energy?
It's not like he actually fought that fight yesterday and they showed it live. The guys have been out of the house a long time already.
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