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View Poll Results: Better TUF Coach Yet Ortiz or Nogueira?
Antonio “Minotauro” Nogueira 18 54.55%
Tito Ortiz 12 36.36%
Other (Please Explain) 3 9.09%
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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 11:08 PM
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You guys do realise that you don't have to be good at something to teach it? The old saying, "those that can't do; teach" exists for a reason.

Mir obviously knows what he should do striking, and just sucks at the execution of it. Thats fairly common (Gurgel for example).

That said, i think Tito was a better coach. Nog is great too, but i felt that tito really helped improve his guys a little more. Very subjective, but you asked.

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post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-05-2008, 01:29 AM
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I know a lot of ppl dont really care for Ortiz, but he was an excellent coach. Felt like he really cared for his fighters. You can tell they really enjoyed being a part of his team too.

I think Ortiz was the most constructive coach to be on TUF, and i also felt his comments during the fights were great, he was great. He is great to have in the corner. Nog is a good coach no doubt, but during the fights i have a hard time really hearing him.
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It is hard for me to choose. The biggest difference Nog & Tito have from all the other coaches is that they specifically talked about the fact that the show isn't there for them but for the kids (TUF Fighters). They both showed the want to have those fighters under them succeed. They both go about it in different ways, but I think it is pretty clear that either way these 2 are what coaches should be, not ass-hats like Mir and Hughes who seem to view the show as the crap they have to deal with to get the fight they want.
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post #14 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-05-2008, 12:22 PM
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I’m going with other because I got to give the nod to Jens Pulver, anyone who would take on Andy Wang and still take the effort to work with him after the way Wang carried on got my respect. Nog has been great and I was impressed with Tito though I didn’t like him much before the show. The thing for me about comparing Tito and Nog is that did Tito look better because Shamrock stunk the place up so badly? That being said I really liked how Tito pushed mental toughness, but I’d say the best two coaches to date have been Nog and Pulver, with a nod to Tito, Forrest and Serra.
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post #15 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-05-2008, 12:47 PM
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I don't know that I can really make a decision on this.

They seemed to focus a lot more on the "Training" aspect of the fighters when Tito was a coach. On this season, there was very little of the training shown. They focused too much on the antics of the fighters.

Going with what I've seen, you have to take Tito, but like I said, there wasn't enough of Big Nog coaching to really tell.

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I don't know that I can really make a decision on this.

They seemed to focus a lot more on the "Training" aspect of the fighters when Tito was a coach. On this season, there was very little of the training shown. They focused too much on the antics of the fighters.

Going with what I've seen, you have to take Tito, but like I said, there wasn't enough of Big Nog coaching to really tell.
Very true. My take on it was that Tito trained his guys the way he would be training for a big fight weeks out. His training was absolutely beastlike and he did his best to turn those guys into cardio machines like himself. True Nog had a love affair with his fighters but Tito really stepped up the intensity and brought something to his fighters that they had never had the luxury of b4 the show.

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Tito by far. Tito was the only coach i saw that did EVERYTHING the other fighters were doing. I dont know why every fighter thats pickd to be a coach dosent do that. I dont see anything negative coming from that i only see the good. Tito for the win
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