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Old 12-14-2008, 09:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Efrain looked pretty good last night, I hate to say it but Nover is no super star and never will be. HE got tossed aroung around like a sack of taters, and no amoount of training will be enough to bring his wrestling level to where it needs to be, this will always be a downfall for him.
lol are you serious? you don't have a clue!



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Old 12-14-2008, 09:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I am serious, and intitled to my own opinion, I think he may become a "decent" wrestler but never MMA style world class.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Dana wasn't kidding that he was like Anderson, they have the same weak spots, Wrestling. I believer Nover will bounce back up with improvement.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wow this is a dumb thread. He is just missing wrestling, whereas Vera is missing heart. You can train the former, not the latter.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Dana wasn't kidding that he was like Anderson, they have the same weak spots, Wrestling. I believer Nover will bounce back up with improvement.
he also said next GSP.. GSP has wrestling
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thats a pretty racist thread

Phillepe is an awsome fighter, Efrien is just better
I thought Efrian would win the fight from day 1

and Brandon vera is very talented

do you have any idea how huge mma is in the phillipeans, its HUGE, I saw some video were they had chuck show up to some mall and like 100000 people showed up to see him, and mma is on tv all day every day there
The OP is probably Filipino judging by his name.
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Old 12-15-2008, 01:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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aye, even says so on the post. Nover did well, just got outwrestled by another versatile fighter. Bit like Stevenson vs. Cummo fight. We'll see both for sure still ^^
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i think the Anderson/GSP comparison is not lost..Anderson's weak point is wrestling and GSP's was outwrestled before by Hughes.. hopefully Nover will be back.. same is through with Vera..
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I think Nover is already better than Vera. He took good shots, has a black belt, and has pretty solid striking. The only thing that was bothering me about his performance, is that he was over-swinging every punch, not using his stick-and-move at all, and his TDD wasn't very solid.

By next fight, he will be a force. That is something you can just drill over and over!
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:36 PM   #20 (permalink)
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GSP LEARNED to be that good of a wrestler. I dont remember him being the fantastic wrestler he is now before his first fight with hughes eh? Nover will get it, give him time. LW Champ by 2010 yo
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