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11-14-2006, 11:40 AM
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He probably was his favorite. I do think the scorecards were bullshit. 30-27 on all 3 scorecards is bullshit.
Though, Serra did win the fight. I just think it would have been closer than that. I was hoping for an extra round.
Serra had a takedown, a submission attempt, and a few strikes. It was enough to win.
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11-14-2006, 11:47 AM
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Lytle also had a takedown, a bunch of strikes and some helluva takedown defence...This is what I hate about scoring fights per round, it should be scored as a whole. That way it would have definitely been a draw. Serra won as much as Lytle did, and you can't really prove that Lytle won any of the rounds...If it was vice-versa, you could not argue it either.
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11-20-2006, 02:39 PM
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he got robbed...I can't stand Serra....
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11-20-2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BrAinDeaD
As Mike and Rogan stated, it was a tough fight to judge, as neither fighter really displayed clear dominance. Although I felt Serra clearly took the 3rd round.
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Exactly, Lytle should have done more if he wanted to clearly win.
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11-21-2006, 06:45 PM
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In my opinion, neither really deserve a title shot, the match was pretty boring..it was clear it should have went to a 4th round and maybe the pace would have been pushed more because both knew who ever won that round would win the fight. I don't know how Serra thinks hes gonna take Georges St. Pierre though, after seeing Georges performance against MATT HUGHES, Serra should be a breeze for him. I think UFC should stop holding back Diego and give him the title shot because Diego Sanchez vs. Georges St. Pierre would be alot more interesting than Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre. That kind of gets me on the subject, why hasnt Diego gotten a title shot? hes 18-0, undefeatable with alot of wins while other fighters have records like 10-0 and get title shots without question. Sure they may have foughten better fighters but thats not Diegos fault, he had no hesitation fighting Karo Parisyan and he beat him by a decision. UFC should stop holding him back with "fight night" matches and give him the title shot he deserves. Hopefully after his fight with Joe Riggs they will realize his talent. that's if he wins that is..i think if he does that should decide if he is ready or not..
So yeah..neither fighter should have gotten the decision between Chris Lytle and Matt Serra, although its happened and it really wasnt a "rob" if Lytle won this would be vise versa..
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12-14-2006, 11:24 PM
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No one won. They needed another round. But if I HAD to call it i would give it to Serra because he was more agressive and controlled Chirs's movement.
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12-15-2006, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy GNP
No one won. They needed another round. But if I HAD to call it i would give it to Serra because he was more agressive and controlled Chirs's movement.
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Actually that kind of thinking is why this decision was bullshit. No offense, but Serra did NOT control Lytle. If Serra controlled Lytle then the fight would have been on the ground the whole time. Lytle kept it standing and Serra failed the entire fight to get it to the ground. Lytle stayed where he wanted the whole fight it's not fair Serra just pressed him up against the fence the whole time a 15 year old could do that and beat anyone in the UFC if that was the case.
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12-20-2006, 02:19 PM
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I agree with Nick. Neither won the fight, both lacked an offense. Lytle had the better defense in my opinion, completely nullifying the ground game of Serra. In the second round, Serra had Lytle on the ground, on his back, early in the round and nothing happened. Great defense on Lytle's part. He lost because of several reasons though, including a lack of offense. Neither deserves a title shot in my opinion, nor the cash/car/watch.
I would have liked to have seen Lytle win because he defended the ground game really well, but defensive fights don't make for good tv... and thats what White is really after.
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12-21-2006, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WouldLuv2FightU
Actually that kind of thinking is why this decision was bullshit. No offense, but Serra did NOT control Lytle. If Serra controlled Lytle then the fight would have been on the ground the whole time. Lytle kept it standing and Serra failed the entire fight to get it to the ground. Lytle stayed where he wanted the whole fight it's not fair Serra just pressed him up against the fence the whole time a 15 year old could do that and beat anyone in the UFC if that was the case.
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You are right. And I don't think Serra won. But under the criteria of "octagon control" he seemed to win. He also pushed the action more. Even though he was unsuccesful he was more agressive. It is sad that the fight went to such a pathetic form of scoring, in a street fight nobody won. I do have to say though that Serra won by the UFC's standards. Whether or not those standars are an accurate way to score a fight is another topic.
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12-29-2006, 05:35 PM
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Personally I think it should of went one more round. Let the fighters settle it and not the judges. It was too close to call.
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