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Old 01-17-2007, 05:14 PM   #51 (permalink)
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What jerkoff made the comment that Serra never submitted anyone world class. If your stupid ass knows anything you would know that Serra submitted Gomi the man is considerd the best in th world at JJ . If you want to put down a fighter know what you are talking about.
You make yourself look stupid making those comments . Most people on this site know Serra has a great background in BJJ so you are not going to make any friends talking like a little *****.

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Old 01-17-2007, 05:40 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:34 PM   #53 (permalink)
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What jerkoff made the comment that Serra never submitted anyone world class. If your stupid ass knows anything you would know that Serra submitted Gomi the man is considerd the best in th world at JJ . If you want to put down a fighter know what you are talking about.
Serra did submit Takanori Gomi in an ADCC matchup, he is not in the same league as Gomi in MMA. If those two guys ever met in any kind of MMA fight the cutman would have to pull Serra's teeth out of Gomi's gloves.

Serra has three submission victories in his MMA career. These are over Jeff Telvi (0-1), Greg Melisi (0-1) and Kelly Dullanty (4-1). I don't see any world class guys here. I think Dullanty was a good fighter, but he left the sport after his loss to Serra, so we don't really know how good he was.

If you really think that Matt Serra is the best in the world at Jiu-jitsu, or even BJJ, you have to look closer at the sport. Penn's jiu-jitsu is much better than Serra's, and he hasn't used it as his primary style most of career, finding it much more rewarding to punch people in the face.

I'm not going to say that Serra's jiu-jitsu isn't great, because it is, but he's not that good of an MMA fighter. He doesn't have that much experience. Neither does GSP, but GSP is 12-1, Serra is 7-4. That's a huge difference, especially when you look at who those losses are against.

I also think that Lytle got robbed in the decision. I also expect Serra to get killed. He matches up poorly with GSP, and anyone who watched the GSP/Sherk fight knows what GSP can do to a short grappler. Let's face it, if Sean Sherk couldn't take GSP down, Serra has no chance.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:45 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Yea I know he submitted Gomi. Big ****in deal. It was a submission contest and Gomi is a wrestler. Plus it was a while ago. Every fight I have seen Serra in all he does all fight long is TRY and submit people. He can't submit anyone in a MMA match to save his life. It's embarrassing watching him fight cuz he fails submission attempt after submission attempt after submission attempt. Every fight is the same thing. 3 rounds of Serra trying desperately to pull off a submission. It never happens, except to people who were put in the ring solely to lose to him. Hence the 0-1 records. Serra sucks, and so do you cicero. Serra isn't the best in the world at JJ I don't know where you get your info from. Possibly SpikeTV commercials or something. If he was the best in the world he wouldn't have been on TUF4. He sucks ass and so do his students and protege's. None of them have success Serra is overrated and the UFC tried for years to build him up as a phenom but it never worked out cuz he sucks too bad. So you think you know everything cuz you think Serra is the best in the world and his opponents that he submitted with their terrible records and lack of experience and skill and ground game are 'world-class' opponents. You are the one not making any friends licking his nuts like that and calling me a f+g. What are you 9?

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Old 01-20-2007, 05:01 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Serra did submit Takanori Gomi in an ADCC matchup, he is not in the same league as Gomi in MMA. If those two guys ever met in any kind of MMA fight the cutman would have to pull Serra's teeth out of Gomi's gloves.

Serra has three submission victories in his MMA career. These are over Jeff Telvi (0-1), Greg Melisi (0-1) and Kelly Dullanty (4-1). I don't see any world class guys here. I think Dullanty was a good fighter, but he left the sport after his loss to Serra, so we don't really know how good he was.

If you really think that Matt Serra is the best in the world at Jiu-jitsu, or even BJJ, you have to look closer at the sport. Penn's jiu-jitsu is much better than Serra's, and he hasn't used it as his primary style most of career, finding it much more rewarding to punch people in the face.

I'm not going to say that Serra's jiu-jitsu isn't great, because it is, but he's not that good of an MMA fighter. He doesn't have that much experience. Neither does GSP, but GSP is 12-1, Serra is 7-4. That's a huge difference, especially when you look at who those losses are against.

I also think that Lytle got robbed in the decision. I also expect Serra to get killed. He matches up poorly with GSP, and anyone who watched the GSP/Sherk fight knows what GSP can do to a short grappler. Let's face it, if Sean Sherk couldn't take GSP down, Serra has no chance.
I agree about your GSP/Serra conclusion. After watching St Pierre destroy Sherk, its impossible to think Serra has a slight chance. Also, St Pierre has improved a lot since he fought Sherk, which was over a year ago. I just hope we see another exciting WW fight for the belt before we see Hughes/St Pierre II
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:08 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I agree about your GSP/Serra conclusion. After watching St Pierre destroy Sherk, its impossible to think Serra has a slight chance. Also, St Pierre has improved a lot since he fought Sherk, which was over a year ago. I just hope we see another exciting WW fight for the belt before we see Hughes/St Pierre II
Most people don't consider this when they look at GSP vs. any wrestler, but GSP is the only fighter to finish Sean Sherk, and Serra's chin is clearly not as good as Sherk's.

First round TKO.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:13 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Personally I think it should of went one more round. Let the fighters settle it and not the judges. It was too close to call.
I agree that it was close and I agree that Lytle should have gotten the decision, but it wasn't a horrible decision in my mind. They could have had it go 3 more rounds, it would still have come down to the judges. Serra would have just hugged Lytle against the fence for 3 more rounds. What difference does it make? Serra wasn't going to submit Lytle (he couldn't even really get him down) and he sure as hell wasn't going to KO him. Lytle on the other hand "could" KO Serra, but Matt would just hug him the whole time.

Either guy would be dogmeat in there with St. Pierre, but "Lights Out" Lytle would at least make for a more entertaining fight. Matt is just going to try to hug Georges for 5 rounds. It seems that the UFC continues to desperately try to get Matt Serra over. Why? He's a middle of the pack guy at 155 lbs. and has absolutely no business fighting at 170 lbs.

Bottom line: Georges "Rush" St. Pierre by whatever he damn well feels like at pretty much whenever he feels like it. Barring divine intervention, Matt Serra is not getting GSP to the ground. Matt couldn't even get Chris Lytle to the ground. If he keeps trying to shoot singles or doubles, he's going to keep failing and eventually eat a nasty knee or kick. He can try to hug GSP and have sex with him up against the fence like he did with Lytle, but GSP is way too quick, agile, and strong. He will toss "the Terror" aside like a a toy. That leaves stand-up. Zero chance of Serra doing anything to GSP here. I don't even think his stubby little arms could reach that far. GSP can basically pick him apart and KO him whenever. Who knows, though, once he catches Serra with a clean shot he may try to get on him and submit him just to show off. I bet "Rush" could do it too.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:27 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Bottom line: Georges "Rush" St. Pierre by whatever he damn well feels like at pretty much whenever he feels like it. Barring divine intervention, Matt Serra is not getting GSP to the ground. Matt couldn't even get Chris Lytle to the ground. If he keeps trying to shoot singles or doubles, he's going to keep failing and eventually eat a nasty knee or kick. He can try to hug GSP and have sex with him up against the fence like he did with Lytle, but GSP is way too quick, agile, and strong. He will toss "the Terror" aside like a a toy. That leaves stand-up. Zero chance of Serra doing anything to GSP here. I don't even think his stubby little arms could reach that far. GSP can basically pick him apart and KO him whenever. Who knows, though, once he catches Serra with a clean shot he may try to get on him and submit him just to show off. I bet "Rush" could do it too.
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