kds13

TUF 5 is gonna be great. the LW division is gonna be fun to watch because of its fast pace and great fights. penn as a coach should be pretty good even though he isn't the hardest trainer. he still knows his shit. and Jenz is gonna be a great coach. hopefully this show leads to penn v pulver 2.

and anyone saying these TUF guys suck, thats a joke. no big names are gonna do it...they've already made it. but these new comers are looking for their chance to make it. if dana called you would you decline? i dont think so.

so shut up and watch.

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j.farrell

season 4 was a boring season. i think getting to know the guys makes the actual show more interesting. the other three seasons were good imo. its a good way to get new guys, its a good way to get new fans. i love how so many people rag on the show like they are forced to watch it. ill admit this season was a little stale. but i think it was because they changed the formula. its good to have coachs. whether they know what they are doing or not. i cant wait to see who is going to be the other coach. if its gona be sherk, than jens needs a big win before the end of the show wraps if they are planning on giving him a title shot. i bet that loss to lauzon really screwed up danas plans for jens.

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Quietus

That about sums up my thoughts on the TUF idea, too. I love being able to watch 'fresh' fights every week.

I like the idea of LHW and mixing old guys and new guys. I think that should set up some interesting dynamics (read: in-house 'drama'), and it should show us who's hungrier: the guys who want to get to the UFC or the guys who want to get back to the UFC.

I'm of two minds about "respecting the fighters". On the one hand, these guys are all very tough SOBs - so I hear what people are saying about that. On the other hand, if you pay your dollar, you get to holler. I view it this way: say you're watching football and I say that the receiver sucks because he dropped a catchable ball. You could say,"Well, he's better than you." The thing is I'm not being paid to play football and he is. The comment is made relative to his competition. Same deal in MMA: Danny Abbadi takes a beating on these boards because he's a scrub relative to the other fighters but he would still destroy the vast majority of the viewing public.

Ok, maybe not Danny Abbadi, but you get the idea.

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Lightfall

So two things are a fact, this season will showcase lightweight for a part and B.J's team is going to win the LW crown.

cabby

Yeah Basically

KillerG

Ive seen BJ's training.... he has a natural atheltic ability. He's great at BJJ, but its more than natural to him.

He even said he doesnt like "strict" training. Its more of a "i do what i need and feel"

Which will NOT help the people he trains

ask yourself this

Would you have been on Tito's team or Shamrocks team

Ignore who you liked, but who TRAINED you better. Tito with MAYBE not the natural ability but who works DAMN hard for it.

Remember you cant teach natural ability (like it seems BJ Penn has) but ypu can learn the skill.

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Randy GNP

Ya, respect BJ as a fighter, not a coach. Pulver will probably
be the better coach in my opinion. I hope they bring back some challanges but ones that don't run a high risk of injury and are fight related (like bag combinations and wrestling matches maybe). TUF 4 wasn't great but it still insured that I had some MMA to watch every week and that's good enough for me. Also alot of TUF fighters are going on to big things so show respect.

Lightfall

point taken repped