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DropKick 05-18-2009 12:09 PM

I'm normally not a conspiracy threorist but...
 
It seems to me that this season has been set up for the UK fighters to win. Don't get me wrong, I like the UK team and I'm actually rooting for their fighters to win but come on, they could have found a lot better American fighters. I think the UFC wants the UK to win to further grow the brand internationally especially in the UK. The UFC has had a lot of success with its shows there and they want to keep it going.

In my opinion there is no reason why they couldn't have found at least 1 or 2 high level division 1 wrestlers getting into the sport. It's pretty clear that the biggest weakness of the UK guys is wrestling and the U.S. team really has no quality wrestlers? I think guys like Grey Maynard or CB Dolloway would have won this season fairly easily to be honest. They clearly didn't pick top talent for the U.S. team.

Sicilian_Esq 05-18-2009 01:01 PM

I agree. This show is to promote the UK talent and help the UFC overseas.

The US guys aren't scrubs, but are definitely the underdogs.

dario03 05-18-2009 02:17 PM

A lot of people including me have been saying this. The lack of highly proven wrestlers is a big point. Especially since there usually is at least one IIRC. But as long as theres some good fights I don't really care since in the end there will only be 1 winner from each "team".

NastyNinja 05-18-2009 02:28 PM

Maybe UK people are just better fighters then American fighters?

dario03 05-18-2009 02:31 PM

The lack of top level UK fighters says otherwise.

MMA is more established in the US and there are simply more people in the US. Now there could be some great UK fighters but if they really went around and got the top 16 non-signed fighters in the US and the UK then odds are the US team would be better at MMA and finding better wrestlers should be fairly easy.

And wrestling is very big in schools in the US so there should definitely be more top level wrestlers.

Jesy Blue 05-18-2009 05:29 PM

after so many seasons of TUF they probably have just realiezed that they just drained the pool of the top 5 seeds in all fields, so there's not a lot to pick from any more.

don't hunt in this same spot for a bit and see how they're bitting when you come back in a couple of years.

CornbreadBB 05-18-2009 05:42 PM

Jews. /thread.

starbug 05-19-2009 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dario03 (Post 888879)
The lack of top level UK fighters says otherwise.

MMA is more established in the US and there are simply more people in the US. Now there could be some great UK fighters but if they really went around and got the top 16 non-signed fighters in the US and the UK then odds are the US team would be better at MMA and finding better wrestlers should be fairly easy.

And wrestling is very big in schools in the US so there should definitely be more top level wrestlers.


As you say, MMA is more established in the US than in the Uk, but over the past 3 or 4 years it has really taken off. I think we will begin to see some really talented fighters coming out of Britan over the next few years.

However i dont buy this whole conspiracy bull. OK so there are no talented US wrestlers in the series, but its still man v man in the octagan, us v uk, its not our fault we continue to spank the yank ! :)

dario03 05-19-2009 12:24 PM

I never said theres no good UK fighters and I'm sure it has been getting bigger (which is one reason to stack the odds in their favor). What I'm saying is it seems like they purposely didn't pick any established top level wrestlers from the US. Because that is the one thing the US team should have a advantage in. Every other part of MMA is a toss up but finding a great wrestler from the US should of been easy.

And the UK team isn't the basis for the theory. If you watch the US team qualifing fights none of them looked that impressive. Basically every other series of TUF had a few stand outs.

wozza 05-19-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DropKick (Post 888824)
It seems to me that this season has been set up for the UK fighters to win. Don't get me wrong, I like the UK team and I'm actually rooting for their fighters to win but come on, they could have found a lot better American fighters. I think the UFC wants the UK to win to further grow the brand internationally especially in the UK. The UFC has had a lot of success with its shows there and they want to keep it going.

In my opinion there is no reason why they couldn't have found at least 1 or 2 high level division 1 wrestlers getting into the sport. It's pretty clear that the biggest weakness of the UK guys is wrestling and the U.S. team really has no quality wrestlers? I think guys like Grey Maynard or CB Dolloway would have won this season fairly easily to be honest. They clearly didn't pick top talent for the U.S. team.

I think you are right. I also think that the US team was not the strongest it could of been, which in honesty is a real shame.. but every cloud has a silver lining, and the UK are going to kick some septic tank ass!!! :thumb01:


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