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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-24-2009, 07:28 PM
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Yeah, I wasn't that impressed, nor did I ever really care about any of them. In fact, the only person I actually grew to like Was Lester the Molester, and that was becaause the guy has wicked heart.
I hope we see Lester in the UFC in the near future, that guy won me over as a fan. He fought more and harder than anyone else in the house and never complained once. He also proved he had the heart to push the pace and keep going. He is rough, but with his heart and work ethic could you imagine what he could do with a real camp?
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post #12 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-24-2009, 07:45 PM
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really ive thought less of a fair few fighters in previous seasons. was expecting to see threads like this pop up after the finale though.
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James Wilks is pretty good, I think he will become a middle tier WW

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post #14 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 02:45 PM
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Just because there was no drama doesn't mean they all suck. I think the two winners of the season will both become solid fighters in their respective division. Both of them have really solid standup skills and good grounds skills. The only difference in comparison to the other seasons is that they don't have these shiny personalities.




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post #15 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-26-2009, 08:37 AM
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Sounds like sour grapes to me, but its not like I didn't expect it.
As for the poster who says most of the americans were amatuers with hardly no fights under there belts, Damarques Johnson and Jason Dent comes to mind. Whereas most of the english guys had only had about 6+ pro fights if that, Nick came into the house with only 3 fights under him.
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Every new TUF season is labeled as having the worst talent pool ever on this forum. I think people tend to forget that the participants never really seem that good on the show, probably to some extent because of the living conditions in the house, I mean they are encouraged to get wasted every night and so forth, not exactly how a professional fighter normally prepares for a fight.

Even the top guys in the early TUFs didn't look very promising during the show, but they've improved a lot since then and also have good training camps before their fights now. We don't know yet if any of the guys from this season is going to be good.

Of the earlier seasons I guess the sixth (Hughes vs Serra) seem to have had the worst talent pool so far.

I've seen guys on Tuf that looked promising while on the show. From the early seasons I thought Diego Sanchez, Josh Koscheck, Rashad Evans, Keith Jardine, and Joe Stevenson all looked promising. And I thought Kenny Florian would of been ok in a lower weight class. All of those guys have done pretty well. Granted the level of competition is probably higher now in the UFC. But still I would say this season had one of the weakest pools. Maybe not the weakest but it was up there. I can see Wilks and maybe demarques doing good but thats it unless some of the other guys get some serious training in.

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post #17 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-26-2009, 06:27 PM
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James Wilks is a super well rounder fighter. I think with a little more experience he will do well in the UFC. So no - I think 1 really solid contestant and several promising ones makes the talent pool respectable.
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post #18 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-26-2009, 07:04 PM
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nope, no and no. TUF 7 was by far the worst group of talent.

Paul Bradley (5-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Matt Brown (7-6 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Steve Byrnes (6-1 MMA, 0-1 UFC)
Timothy Credeur (9-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Mike Dolce (3-4 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
C.B. Dollaway (6-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Gerald Harris (6-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Mike Marrello (6-1-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Prince Mclean (4-5 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Aaron Meisner (3-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Reggie Orr (4-5-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Jeremiah Riggs (1-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
David Roberts (5-7 MMA, 0-1 UFC)
Amir Sadollah (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Brandon Sene (2-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Dan Simmler (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Jesse Taylor (6-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Luke Zachrich (7-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Additional names revealed by Yahoo! Sports include:
David Baggett (4-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Erik Charles (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
John Clarke (5-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Daniel Cramer (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
John Hall (3-3 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Nick Klein (3-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Jeremy May (5-5 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Dave Mewborn (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Matthew Riddle (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Dante Rivera (10-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Nick Rossborough (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Patrick Schultz (0-3 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
Cale Yarbrough (0-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC)
John Wood (6-3 MMA, 0-0 UFC)


TUf 9 contestants were alot more skilled, non of them were making their pro debut, all of them had winning records. D. Johnson, James Wilks, Nick Ospizak, Ross peirson, all better than TUf 7's finalists, AMir sodallah, made his pro debut in the finale

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Every new TUF season is labeled as having the worst talent pool ever on this forum. I think people tend to forget that the participants never really seem that good on the show, probably to some extent because of the living conditions in the house, I mean they are encouraged to get wasted every night and so forth, not exactly how a professional fighter normally prepares for a fight.

Even the top guys in the early TUFs didn't look very promising during the show, but they've improved a lot since then and also have good training camps before their fights now. We don't know yet if any of the guys from this season is going to be good.

Of the earlier seasons I guess the sixth (Hughes vs Serra) seem to have had the worst talent pool so far.
At least season 6 had Mac who actually LOOKED like he might do something in the UFC. No idea what happened there because he tooled kids on that show.
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YES and not only the worst talent wise but it was a black hole of personalty, I honestly cannot name a single person from this season because none of them gave me a reason to care about them. For me personally this was the least enjoyable season ever.




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