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post #21 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-27-2009, 02:58 AM
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At least season 6 had Mac who actually LOOKED like he might do something in the UFC. No idea what happened there because he tooled kids on that show.
Yeah but the fact that he tooled everybody on the show and now gets tooled in the UFC himself tells something about the skills of the rest of the guys on that season.
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I wasn't really impressed at all, I thought that Andre Winner, Demarques and Pearson were all good fighters and I would have liked to see Dave Faulkner properly if he just didn't have the gum shield issue.

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YES and not only the worst talent wise but it was a black hole of personalty, I honestly cannot name a single person from this season because none of them gave me a reason to care about them. For me personally this was the least enjoyable season ever.
Really? i mean yeah most of em had nothin goin for them, but come on lester? Man's gotta a heart
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Honestly i think winner will have the best career out of all of them even though he didnt win he has great technical striking and he's a really big lightweight that has shown he is able to finish from any area
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Honestly i think winner will have the best career out of all of them even though he didnt win he has great technical striking and he's a really big lightweight that has shown he is able to finish from any area
You talk sense, lad.

Yeah, Winner and Pearson are the ones who will have the best career. Winner's sprawl and brawl style is as sick as Chuck Liddell's - and that's a massive compliment considering Chuck has the best takedown defence in MMA. The kid is going to rock heads, trust.

I admit that most of the participants had vacant personalities in this season, but you still had some solid fighters. They just lacked charisma.

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Yet another sour grapes thread.

No, it wasn't the weakest collection of talent in the shows history, it was an average collection. I think Wilkes, Winner, Johnson and Pearson will all be decent mid-level fighters. The Brits won because they were hungrier and trained better as a team, not because of DW staking the odds in the Brits favour. As for the show being devoid of personalities, I couldn't give a shit. I enjoy the show for the quality of the fights, and there were some great fights this season. Frank Lester has a lot of heart, but his skills are well bellow average. I'd be surprised if he does anything in the UFC.

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At least season 6 had Mac who actually LOOKED like he might do something in the UFC. No idea what happened there because he tooled kids on that show.
the thing with mac is that he was already a seasoned fighter when he got in the show. most fighters on the show are early in their career and have potential to develop, but aren't actually that great at the time. so yes he was better than the guys on the show, but he ain't going to get any better really.

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YES and not only the worst talent wise but it was a black hole of personalty, I honestly cannot name a single person from this season because none of them gave me a reason to care about them. For me personally this was the least enjoyable season ever.
I could not agree more. I mean, when they spend 10 minutes talking about how a guy sucks his thumb, that just shows you how much personality this season had. It was quite pathetic. I remember a quote from one of the few, few names I remember off this season, "What would this show be without Dave Faulkner?" I don't know..good? Honestly, the only names I remembered while the season was on was Demarcus, Frank Lester, and Dave Faulkner..and the only reason I remembered Dave Faulkner was because I was very much annoyed with how he was trying to be this "funny" crazy guy but in reality he was just stupid.

And before anyone tweaks out, I'm not saying they should act like Junie Browning or some shit and play towards the camera cause I can't stand that either. I'm talking about guys with personalities....that does not mean some dude playing into reality TV and making a fool out of himself. I always like to take TUF5 for example, a big array of interesting personalities that didn't have people playing towards the camera except for Gabe...and even that was kind of funny by the way everyone else was treating him. I'll never forget when Tony DeSouza told him he needs to stop getting tubes shoved up his ass. I mean the whole Diaz/Emerson confrontation happened because Nate Diaz is TRULY a dumb ass street fighter...he didn't do it to get a rise out of TV viewers.

Now, onto the talent. I really thought no season would beat out TUF6 which was without a doubt the worst talent BY FAR of any season. That show was tailor made for one guy to win it and everyone else was complete garbage. Hell even the winner has an unimpressive 1-2 record in the UFC.

However, this season I think has surpassed 6 as being the worst casting of talent. Atleast a couple guys from TUF6 went on a one fight win streak and were brought back to the UFC. I can't see anyone from this season to make some kind of run...even a miniscule run.

And I must say, not only is Frank Lester without a doubt the worst fighter to get to the semi-finals...he's one of the worst fighters in the history of TUF...which is sad considering he had 2 wins. Neither of them he actually "won." You can add his name with the likes of Wayne Weems, Andy Wang, Josh Rafferty, Solomon Hutchinson, Ross Pointon, etc.

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Ross Pointon, etc.
What's so bad about Ross Pointon?? I admit that he should have lost that fight with Andre Winner, but he is still a decent prospect. He is young and seems willing to learn as many forms of MMA as possible. He might be a be rough around the edges, but he can take a beating and keep on ticking. I honestly see him evolving into a much more complete fighter over the years.

And Patrick Schutlz is worse as a fighter than Frank Lester in my opinion.

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What's so bad about Ross Pointon?? I admit that he should have lost that fight with Andre Winner, but he is still a decent prospect. He is young and seems willing to learn as many forms of MMA as possible. He might be a be rough around the edges, but he can take a beating and keep on ticking. I honestly see him evolving into a much more complete fighter over the years.

And Patrick Schutlz is worse as a fighter than Frank Lester in my opinion.
Mate, Ross Pointon was on the third season of TUF (rubbish fighter). You're getting him confused with Ross Pearson.

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