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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-24-2009, 10:43 AM Thread Starter
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Was TUF 9 the weakest collection of talent in the show's history?

Simple question? I think so... and this is not a shot at the UK guys who were clearly much better than the US guys. I just can't see us getting another Sanzchez, Griffin, Evans, Bisping... or even a Grove, Herman, Diaz, or Davis for that matter out of this group.
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I voted yes.

Surely the level of American talent is higher than the UK. The UFC could not pick the highest level guys they could find because, if the US had of trampled through the show, it wouldn't have been much fun.

I wonder who applied but they turned down?
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I voted yes.

Surely the level of American talent is higher than the UK. The UFC could not pick the highest level guys they could find because, if the US had of trampled through the show, it wouldn't have been much fun.

I wonder who applied but they turned down?
What gives you the idea that the talent in the USA would be better than in the UK?

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What gives you the idea that the talent in the USA would be better than in the UK?
Larger talent pool for one.

Longer history, mean more people training MMA for a longer period.

And the trump card is wrestling. It would take the UK 40+ years to even have a hope of putting together a comparable feeder pool of wrestlers to transition into MMA.

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Every new TUF season is labeled as having the worst talent pool ever on this forum. I think people tend to forget that the participants never really seem that good on the show, probably to some extent because of the living conditions in the house, I mean they are encouraged to get wasted every night and so forth, not exactly how a professional fighter normally prepares for a fight.

Even the top guys in the early TUFs didn't look very promising during the show, but they've improved a lot since then and also have good training camps before their fights now. We don't know yet if any of the guys from this season is going to be good.

Of the earlier seasons I guess the sixth (Hughes vs Serra) seem to have had the worst talent pool so far.
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I think Pearson and Winner will both be decent lightweights in the UFC. nothing at 170, but we will see, gotta give the guys some time to develop.
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Yeah, I wasn't that impressed, nor did I ever really care about any of them. In fact, the only person I actually grew to like Was Lester the Molester, and that was becaause the guy has wicked heart.


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I think every season seems weak when it first ends. I didnt think anyone from season five would do anything, but it turned out to be one of the stronger casts. It is really hard to say how any of these guys are going to do until they face ufc level competition.
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Yeah, I wasn't that impressed, nor did I ever really care about any of them. In fact, the only person I actually grew to like Was Lester the Molester, and that was becaause the guy has wicked heart.
Yep, my thoughts exactly.

None of the guys really impressed me at all. Can't see any of them being a threat in the foreseeable future.

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I have to say yes. To me it appeared that DW tried to stack the UK deck as big as possible. The UK team had some serious MMA records while most of the US team seemed to be amatuers trying to go pro. If a bunch of borderline guys gave the UK Pro's as much trouble as they did imagine what the real US pros are going to do to those UK guys.

Yes, it was the weakest talent we have seen so far.
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