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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-26-2009, 12:53 PM Thread Starter
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I just watched a youtube video of Nelson and Frank Mir wrestling, it looked like early on Mir was having his way but Nelson ended up winning. I had no idea his ground game was on Mirs level. Nelson was MUCH skinnier then and I cant even imagine he would be on Mirs level now.

Is there any heavyweight currently in the UFC that Big Country nelson can beat? I would really like to see him get his ass whooped.
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youre crazy man, i picked nelson as having one of the best chances of winning tuf this season, the guy is a veteran and has some serious skills.
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He'd probably go on a hot and cold streak in the UFC. Being able to catch others while others beat him down.

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He'd probably go on a hot and cold streak in the UFC. Being able to catch others while others beat him down.
Pretty much this. At the very least until he begins to take training seriously.
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youre crazy man, i picked nelson as having one of the best chances of winning tuf this season, the guy is a veteran and has some serious skills.

I think he will win TUF as well but I was trying to think of any guys currently in the UFC that i thought he could beat and I dont give him much of a chance against anyone.
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I think he will win TUF as well but I was trying to think of any guys currently in the UFC that i thought he could beat and I dont give him much of a chance against anyone.
yea i have to agree with you on that one, ufc's hw is so stacked and someone else touched on it, i don't think he takes training that seriously, he just goes out and fights
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Is there any heavyweight currently in the UFC that Big Country nelson can beat? I would really like to see him get his ass whooped.
The UFC heavyweight division is weak and has been for a long time. So weak that a light heavyweight old enough to order from the seniors menu at Denny's came back to take the title. And so weak that an ex pro_wrestler coming off a failed attempt at a football career can stroll in and get a title shot with a 2-1-0 record and actually win it.

So yeah, Roy Nelson will fit in with the UFC heavyweights just fine and probably do quite well.
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The UFC heavyweight division is weak and has been for a long time. So weak that a light heavyweight old enough to order from the seniors menu at Denny's came back to take the title. And so weak that an ex pro_wrestler coming off a failed attempt at a football career can stroll in and get a title shot with a 2-1-0 record and actually win it.

So yeah, Roy Nelson will fit in with the UFC heavyweights just fine and probably do quite well.
Your views are too biased. Name 3 strong and relevant heavyweights outside the UFC not named Fedor.

Randy Couture was 43 when he beat Sylvia and that's because he's an anomaly. Brock Lesnar is a freak of nature and beat top ranked heavy weights whether you choose to accept it or not. Using those two as examples to push your claim of a weak division is unfounded and irrelevant. This division has grown like crazy in the last two years and we are seeing some very competitive matchups to determine future contenders.

Welterweight and middleweight... hmm two champs and no clear cut contenders... does that make them weak? Does any deserve to face GSP or Silva? I think there are more deserving contenders at heavyweight: Carwin, Velasquez, Santos (one day), Kongo (long overdue)... I wouldn't call the division stacked but calling it weak by looking at Brock and Randy is just senseless.
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I wouldn't call the division stacked but calling it weak by looking at Brock and Randy is just senseless.
Yeah, how foolish of me to use as my example the former title holder and the current title holder.

What was I thinking
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Your views are too biased. Name 3 strong and relevant heavyweights outside the UFC not named Fedor.

Randy Couture was 43 when he beat Sylvia and that's because he's an anomaly. Brock Lesnar is a freak of nature and beat top ranked heavy weights whether you choose to accept it or not. Using those two as examples to push your claim of a weak division is unfounded and irrelevant. This division has grown like crazy in the last two years and we are seeing some very competitive matchups to determine future contenders.

Eh... you're bias too. Werdum, Overeem, Arlovski, Rogers, the other Overeem, Monsoon, etc there's other HWs out there. The UFC's HW division is weak, so is everyone else's. UFC says JDS is their best striker at HW and he couldn't even tko or ko a daydreaming, wetfooted CroCop. Mir gets bullied and lost to Vera and beat a nearly-dead Nog and then somehow was claimed as being one of the best HWs ever.

And Brock couldn't finish Herring and did get beat by Mir, and had trouble with a wrestler 60lbs lighter than him.
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