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Old 10-01-2009, 08:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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But who gave him that "larger than life image." He didnt. He certaintly didnt go up to people and ask for it. It was given to him.
This is only partly true. It's true Elite XC, NBC, and some other goofs like Gary Shaw are the ones who exploited his name in an MMA context to make money. But don't act like Kimbo didn't make money or allow it happen. He isn't some innocent bystander who got kidnapped and put on NBC, and now TUF.

He is also the one who posted a bunch of videos on YouTube telling anyone who would listen or watch what a badass he was, so, yes, he did ask for it, at least to some extent.

He seems like an ok guy, he seems to have the right attitude. I'm not knocking him for taking a shot at MMA, but I sure can knock him, and the people who have tried to sell him, as being grossly over-hyped and over-rated. You can't say he doesn't deserve those knocks, he does.

He has a right to make a living at MMA if he can, and people on MMA forums have a right to point out the flaws in his game, in and out of the octagon, thats what this forum exists for.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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He has a right to make a living at MMA if he can, and people on MMA forums have a right to point out the flaws in his game, in and out of the octagon, thats what this forum exists for.
No doubt, no doubt.

Personally, I think he had no idea what was going to happen with his YouTube videos. I have a suspicion it was the MilfHunter crowd who posted them (he was a body guard for those porn producers, and shows up in some of their vids, only as a bodyguard) and they took off to a degree no one could have anticipated.

I see a bit of a deer-in-the-headlights look to Kimbo, who is now on a much bigger stage than he ever expected.

I like him though, he seems like a reasonably charming guy. I liked his post-fight interview where he almost breaks down after trying to be dispassionate "who am I kidding, I'm really upset at losing..."

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Old 10-01-2009, 11:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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This is only partly true. It's true Elite XC, NBC, and some other goofs like Gary Shaw are the ones who exploited his name in an MMA context to make money. But don't act like Kimbo didn't make money or allow it happen. He isn't some innocent bystander who got kidnapped and put on NBC, and now TUF.

He is also the one who posted a bunch of videos on YouTube telling anyone who would listen or watch what a badass he was, so, yes, he did ask for it, at least to some extent.

He seems like an ok guy, he seems to have the right attitude. I'm not knocking him for taking a shot at MMA, but I sure can knock him, and the people who have tried to sell him, as being grossly over-hyped and over-rated. You can't say he doesn't deserve those knocks, he does.

He has a right to make a living at MMA if he can, and people on MMA forums have a right to point out the flaws in his game, in and out of the octagon, thats what this forum exists for.
What are you talking about? Over-hyped and over-rated? Have you not listened to what Dana, Kimbo and basically EVERYONE has been saying? "We all know Kimbo can street fight, now its time to see if he is a mixed martial artist". Doesn't sound like Kimbo is hyped to me, it sounds like us trying to find out of that is true or not is hyped, just like you do to ANY entertainment. I think we all saw that he needed ALOT more work, but he never claimed to be better than what he showed. Just put yourself in his shoes, would you be as humble, or would you be bragging about how badass you are and how the show is only good because your on it?
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The Kimbo slice we seen get beat by Roy "fat slob" Nelson ws not the same Kimbo. Has he found God or something?? he seems like a nice caring person Were was the rage that we were expecting?? i was expecting him to throw a few more bombs etc but he just gave up when Nelson laid the Belly on him and started tapping his head.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The Kimbo slice we seen get beat by Roy "fat slob" Nelson ws not the same Kimbo. Has he found God or something?? he seems like a nice caring person Were was the rage that we were expecting?? i was expecting him to throw a few more bombs etc but he just gave up when Nelson laid the Belly on him and started tapping his head.
Yea, I was expecting more bombs, but he was probably trying to fight smarter and not get knocked out so easily. I have not been impressed with the cardio of anyone on rampages team, which is probably in part due to the fact he went for all the big guys, but still, horrible cardio so far. I think Kimbo was already pretty gassed by the second time Roy was on him, which was probably 275+ of weight. You have that much weight on you with as good of a wrestler as Roy, and your already tired, AND you don't have any ground skills anyways, its easy to see why he wasn't able to get up.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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For all you ppl saying that its Kimbo's fault for the "thug" image he has, consider this.

If a company came to you, offering hundreds of thousands of dollars, and billed you as the best fighter in the universe, would you take it?
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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For all you ppl saying that its Kimbo's fault for the "thug" image he has, consider this.

If a company came to you, offering hundreds of thousands of dollars, and billed you as the best fighter in the universe, would you take it?

This is how you get a thug reputation......

Ferguson started working as bouncer for a strip club until highschool friend and current manager, Mike "IceyMike" Ember, offered him a job as limousine driver and bodyguard for RK Netmedia, better known as RealityKings, a Miami-based pornography production/promotion company responsible for a number of popular adult subscription websites.[8][9] Kimbo still maintains close ties with RealityKings who now accompany him, as his fight entourage, under the name Team Kimbo.
In 2002, he was charged for carrying a concealed weapon[9] and in 2003, he began his career in unsanctioned street fights. They were distributed through the Internet, mainly through the adult website SublimeDirectory and YouTube. In his first taped fight against a man named Big D, Ferguson left a large cut on his opponent's right eye which led Internet fans to call him Slice, becoming the last name to his already popular childhood nickname, Kimbo.[9]
His only on-tape street fight loss was against Sean Gannon, a former Boston police officer who also trains in MMA. The popularity of the fight propelled both men into the MMA spotlight. [14]
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Plus carrying a gun everywhere you go and stating it doesnt help....

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Old 10-01-2009, 05:58 PM   #18 (permalink)
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kimbo would beat most of the fighters on that show... roy nelson has very good takedowns and ground game..plus a huge belly...honestly i have a huge belly also..i been training 5 months in bjj (now belly is smaller i was 265 now im 233) but i have beat blue belts and dominate guys who have been training WAY WAY WAY longer than me on the ground because of the weight advantage..i pretty much lay on them from side control and aslong there 20 pounds lighter than me they pretty much never escape. infact now that i lost more weight..im technically better but people escape easyer so trust me that belly is a HUGE advantage..i think kimbo would do good against the other fighters and he did hit roy with some hard punches infact if he didnt go to the knee(ala frank mir to brock) he could of stopped that takedown also
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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He has just a great personality. He never talks shit about anyone else. He doesnt hype himself in any way. He just talks about how he is trying to absorb everything in. He does not have the slight bit of cockiness to him. Everybody who talked to him had all postive things to same about him how he trains really hard and stuff. I really think he is a pretty cool guy.

*About the fight, I agree with Rampage, how are you supposed to get the moon off of you?*
Fvckin A, I'm glad someone brought up this point. Back when Kimbo came on the scene I wasn't to into him cause I thought he was just a thug and not an athlete, but TUF has proven me wrong. Much love for Kimbo Slice. REP.
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It didn't show that Kimbo is a joke, it showed he needs to improve his TDD so disgustingly obese blobs like Roy Nelson cant take him down and lay on him with his 7 stomachs.

I bet you wouldn't call Kimbo a joke if he was beside you.
As far as MMA goes, Kimbo is a really, really bad joke. He's tough but has no skill at all. When he was on his back, he just laid there, didn't switch his hips, buck, or try to roll or anything. He laid there like a drunken prom date and let his face get ****ed by the fat slob. Kimbo is a joke cuz the act he's putting on on TUF is just that, an act. He acts like he's learning everything, but his fight showed that he hasn't learned a single thing. If you watched TUF at all this season, all they have been working on with the manegy bearded hobo is defense and how to get up from your back. Despite his coaches trying to turn him into something otherthan a complete joke, he hasn't, and probably never will, change a damn thing about his fight game. He's old as hell and he's fought his ineffecient street boxing for too long to just up and find a ground game. He will never learn to wrestler, or guard defence or any kind of ground game. And that's why he is and always will be a joke in MMA.

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