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Old 10-01-2009, 01:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright for those who haven't watched tonight's episode yet here you go....

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So all you ultimate fighter fans we all know tonight that kimbo slice was defeated by roy nelson but i thought I'd say this...and before I go on I'd like to admit I'm a Kimbo Slice fan but I don't think what I'm about to say in any way, shape, or form is biased. For weeks now I've read these forums and watched people talk bad about Kimbo and say so many disrespectful things about him. I've never really understood it either. Talk bad about Dana White if you want, talk bad about the Ultimate Fighter if you want, but how dare you people talk so much crap about a person who has literally talked no trash on the show. Is it kimbo's fault that he's inexperienced??? News Flash people...THAT'S WHY HE JOINED THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER!!! How are you going to say that Kimbo Slice shouldn't be in this competition? Does not every UFC fighter start somewhere? Everybody is a rookie at some point. And yet you guys continually knock him for being a publicity stunt and all that jive. Have any of you taken the time to research kimbo? Have any of you hardcore fans actually taken the time to get off this forum and maybe read up on Kimbo? I thought not. Yeah he does it for the money so does everyone even if they say they don't. But he also does it for the love to fight. It's no different than anyone of our day jobs yet you people love to hate a man for chasing the American Dream? Pitiful. Want to know why else he does it? 6 Kids that he raises!!! Do you know how much money that costs? Seriously, he's trying to support a family and you people hate on him for trying. You guys are no better than punks. This man is nothing but humble and trying to learn and you guys call him a publicity stunt? Sorry that I had to type this but I figured it really needed to be said because I'm sick of all these "MMA hardcore fans" talking crap about a guy trying to do something he loves. Why don't you guys get a life and stop talking crap about a decent hard-working person...
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think people are just tired of all of the hype surrounding Kimbo. He really doesn't deserve a lot of fanfare but he gets it anyways because of the people who promote him. If he weren't famous he wouldn't have the opporitunities available to him now. And nobody would hate him, but he is famous people do hate him and he has an opporitunity that most fighters never get, people are just angry that being basically a newcomer to the sport gets such favoritism while people who've busted their ass get nothing.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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We all have lives, we don't sit on here all day talking crap about Kimbo. The reason people say he's a stunt to gather more money is because the entire show is based around him. The previews for the show before it started, the commercials, everything, were all based around Kimbo. He is how they are getting so much money off of this season.

The reason why people don't like Kimbo, is mainly because of his fans. Kimbo's career has been mainly retarded fans of his that come from youtube talking about how Kimbo will whoop up on anyone's ass. That has died down now, but that's how it was when he started, as such, "hardcore MMA fans" as you call them, instantly got annoyed and wanted to see him lose all the time. Part of that is still there, which is why so many want to see him lose.

At the end of the day, Kimbo isn't that good of a fighter, he has no ground game, his striking is decent but not nearly enough to make it far in any division, even the HW crap striking division. However, he can gather a lot of money for the UFC as he's very popular, everyone tunes in.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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but can you blame kimbo for that? he never asked for the publicity in all truth he's just gone along for the ride. Like I said if you want someone to point the blame at then point it at least in the right direction. Point it to the people who make their living hyping up people like Kimbo. I.E. EliteXC promoters, UFC promoters. Dana White has really done nothing to quiet the hype either which makes him look a lot like a hypocrite. In all honesty, Dana has just created more hype for his show to become watched. You can't really hate the man tho because like everyone else in the world he's just trying to get what everyone else in this world wants. MONEY cuz that's what the world is fueled by not to be melodramatic in any way

And michael I know it's horrible to bring up but what were people saying about Brock Lesnar when he came into the UFC? I know I know horrible comparison but I'm just saying give Kimbo the benefit of the doubt. Let him train with Rashad Evans and his group at Greg Jackson's and let's see if that doesn't help at all. I know a lot of people probably don't want to see it but I would love to see Kimbo in a UFC matchup once he's had enough training. Quote me as I'm not saying he's going to be anything great but I think if trained right he could be decent. MMA fighters aren't born, they're made and sculpted

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Old 10-01-2009, 01:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't tend to blame Kimbo for being in the position that he's in. Were I to up a few fight videos to Youtube, only to be approached by Strikeforce with hundreds of thousands of dollars and main event status, I highly doubt I'd turn them away on the basis that it wouldn't be fair to more 'seasoned' mixed martial artists. I also doubt I'd refuse a spot on TUF. Blame Strikeforce and now UFC for the hype surrounding Kimbo Slice. Because that's entirely where blame need be placed. Kimbo hardly promotes himself as the best. Hell, he doesn't even promote himself as all that good. All he's ever said is that he's passionate about MMA, and what he lacks in experience, he makes up for in heart and the desire to learn. I can't possibly find reason to knock a man who's as incredibly humble, respectful, and eager to learn as Kimbo. This alone warrants the man some fanfare, but to anyone who feels the need to rip on Slice because of his position in MMA, I say this. Blame the organizations. Not the man.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm definitely not a fan of that hobo. But, it's not him as a person I don't like. He seems like a great guy on the show. But, he is a publicity stunt and will never be anything more than a draw. Whatelse could we expect from a guy that beat up bums on the internet?
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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but can you blame kimbo for that? he never asked for the publicity in all truth he's just gone along for the ride. Like I said if you want someone to point the blame at then point it at least in the right direction. Point it to the people who make their living hyping up people like Kimbo. I.E. EliteXC promoters, UFC promoters. Dana White has really done nothing to quiet the hype either which makes him look a lot like a hypocrite. In all honesty, Dana has just created more hype for his show to become watched. You can't really hate the man tho because like everyone else in the world he's just trying to get what everyone else in this world wants. MONEY cuz that's what the world is fueled by not to be melodramatic in any way

And michael I know it's horrible to bring up but what were people saying about Brock Lesnar when he came into the UFC? I know I know horrible comparison but I'm just saying give Kimbo the benefit of the doubt. Let him train with Rashad Evans and his group at Greg Jackson's and let's see if that doesn't help at all. I know a lot of people probably don't want to see it but I would love to see Kimbo in a UFC matchup once he's had enough training. Quote me as I'm not saying he's going to be anything great but I think if trained right he could be decent. MMA fighters aren't born, they're made and sculpted
Brock has 5 fights total, and has beaten Randy, Herring, Mir. Kimbo has 5 MMA fights(including his fight with Roy), and he's he got knocked out in 14 seconds by Seth and lost to Roy easily on the ground, with no good wins on his record.

If Kimbo trains for a very long time on this ground game and striking, he might do decently in the HW division. However, as of right now, he's not a good fighter and he is only there to make the UFC money. That's why they signed him, that's why they want to bring him back so badly, he pulls in money.

I don't dislike Kimbo, but that's the way it is.

Also, make sure to use the "edit" button instead of double posting, and welcome to the forum.
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Yeah, that's the exact point. He didn't orchestrate it that, he didn't ask for it. He took an opportunity that was there. That is it. There's no reason to hate someone for taking an opportunity given to them. If you are going to hate someone for the hype around TUF blame Zuffa, Dana and the Fertitas. They are the ones milking it for all it's worth, Kimbo is just taking what life is giving him. And I think he is a horrible fighter that doesn't belong in the UFC, that being said, it's not his fault the spotlight is on him.
People hate fighters often because of their fans and how they are treated in the MMA world by promoters, it's part of the job. Sadly, MMA is an entertainment business as much as it is a sport, especially TUF. As such, people are going to hate someone who isn't a good fighter yet is having so much spotlight on him when other, more talented fighters could be having it on them instead.

That's the way it is, like it or not.
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