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Originally Posted by Toxic
Say what you will but I honestly don't think Rampage could tool Big Country, hell Im not even sure he could beat Nelson.
Big Country = Nelson
Bustin your balls though Toxic, i'm sure you meant someone else. haha
Seriously though, 'Page walks around as a HW in far better shape than any one else in the house. He's got the edge in fitness and most probably cardio as well. Also much more experienced with more than double the number of fights Roy has.
I think Country is legit, but look at who he has lost to -- every single well ranked fighter he has ever faced and then some. Page on the other hand has won over a who's who of the LHW elite rankings, and a few people who have fared well at HW too.
I'd put my money on Rampage over Roy Nelson any day
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Rampage is a pretty serious douche. The titties thing was funny the first time, not the hundredth time. By far the most unprofessional person to ever coach TUF.
i think the whole "titties" thing is funny but have no problem with him standing up for himself if he doesn't want to be called that. he's a grown man who doesn't want to be disrespected on national t.v. how can anyone criticize him for that?
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Big Country = Nelson
Bustin your balls though Toxic, i'm sure you meant someone else. haha
Seriously though, 'Page walks around as a HW in far better shape than any one else in the house. He's got the edge in fitness and most probably cardio as well. Also much more experienced with more than double the number of fights Roy has.
I think Country is legit, but look at who he has lost to -- every single well ranked fighter he has ever faced and then some. Page on the other hand has won over a who's who of the LHW elite rankings, and a few people who have fared well at HW too.
I'd put my money on Rampage over Roy Nelson any day
What I meant was Rampage defiantly wouldn't tool Nelson and in fact I'm not even sure he would win if they fought.
Who has actually beat Nelson, I mean in all honesty the Arlovski fight should have never been stood up, his losses to Monson and Rothwell were both questionable decisions. In all honesty Nelson has held his own against elite level HW's to think he could beat an elite level HW is not absurd by any means.
What I meant was Rampage defiantly wouldn't tool Nelson and in fact I'm not even sure he would win if they fought.
Who has actually beat Nelson, I mean in all honesty the Arlovski fight should have never been stood up, his losses to Monson and Rothwell were both questionable decisions. In all honesty Nelson has held his own against elite level HW's to think he could beat an elite level HW is not absurd by any means.
It's true Arlovski fight was fine on the ground, haven't seen the Rothwell fight and from where I was sitting he beat Monson, Monson has a compitent ground game at the very least so that is an achievement. Pardon me for thinking this but I think he could give Brett Rogers some trouble, I think he'd win if it went to the ground. Guy is a BJJ black belt under Renzo Gracie, his striking though is not the best he did get tooled by Kimbo afterall. Guy has lost to some good competition but he's also never beaten anyone worth that much, his biggest win is Brad Imes. Good fighter, good skills, guy needs to lose belly and cut to 205.
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He should really be thankful that when he charged/pushed Page that Page thought he was joking still, after grabbing his nice, juicy, plump and irresitable boob. If he had put his hands on Rampage and Rampage had realized he was doing so in anger rather than jokingly ... well, somehow i doubt Page would have been on to hold back in that case. haha.
Why is there not a gif of said titty grab in this thread?
This has to be the first time on this forum that a thread about titties was about a guy.
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Rampage is a pretty serious douche. The titties thing was funny the first time, not the hundredth time. By far the most unprofessional person to ever coach TUF.
I hate to say this but to be honest everytime he calls him titties im laughing my ass off just as much as the first time. I guess im just immature
What I meant was Rampage defiantly wouldn't tool Nelson and in fact I'm not even sure he would win if they fought.
Who has actually beat Nelson, I mean in all honesty the Arlovski fight should have never been stood up, his losses to Monson and Rothwell were both questionable decisions. In all honesty Nelson has held his own against elite level HW's to think he could beat an elite level HW is not absurd by any means.
How exactly would Nelson beat Rampage?? I dont see him taking Rampage down easily, Rampage is notoriously hard to sub because of his strength and if he bulked up it would be even harder. I dont think Nelson wants to stand with Page, only a matter of time before he gets KTFO. I just dont see how he wins, Rampage outwrestled Dan Henderson, i dont think Roy is gonna take him down whatsoever and i dont think he has the strength to do much even if he did, he would gas and Page would KO him imo
Page would be every HW at this sad sack of an excuse for TUF, so would Rashad, i dont see how to think any different, they all have glaring holes in their games and/or gas after 1 round.
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Originally Posted by Toxic
What I meant was Rampage defiantly wouldn't tool Nelson and in fact I'm not even sure he would win if they fought.
Who has actually beat Nelson, I mean in all honesty the Arlovski fight should have never been stood up, his losses to Monson and Rothwell were both questionable decisions. In all honesty Nelson has held his own against elite level HW's to think he could beat an elite level HW is not absurd by any means.
Hey, i never said it was absurd -- im not sayin Nelson would have absolutley no chance but when i look at their exp and having watched them both over the years, it's a no brainer for me. Afterall... Roy isn't going to beat Page on the feet, and the only person to ever sub him was Saku in his prime. Couple that with his outstanding defensive wrestling and it's not a good matchup for Big Country.
Roy has had some good fights, but Page has had far better (for the most part) against much stiffer/more elite competition for much of his career. As many fights as Roy has had, 'Page has probably had against guys who were ranked in the top ten at the time. Wand x3, Shogun, Ninja, Liddell x2, Hendo, Jardine, Lindland, Arona, Saku, Randleman, Vovchanchyn , Bustamante, etc. Then there are his other 15 or so fights.
But not to fall back on a bastardization of mmath -- there's that, and that i really don't think many people in that house could throw down with the sort of abandon that 'Page could if he were prompted to do so outside of a ring/cage, you know what i mean? I think when it comes to fighting that he's got one hell of a mean streak in him.