Has anyone else found titos constant yapping irritating? He's so in your face that guys are changing their gameplans just to keep him quiet. If he was their coach i'd understand but he's intefering in the fights
He started bitching on that french dude and chuck demonstrated ownage of epic proportions.
Tito was saying like 'ahh the dude has no heart theres no quit in mma, theres no room for quiters.
I saw nothing wrong with it, These guys arent experts at MMA, that it why they are taking this route. If someone like Tito is telling you to throw elbows while your in a good position, its good advice. I saw nothing wrong with Tito yesterday, but Chuck saying that was good.
I think you are just a Tito hater to begin with, so you think anything he does is wrong.
He technically IS their coach. He was helping them. And everything he said was technically the correct thing to do. I liked it. You can hate Tito and claim he is a garbage fighter, but you can't say he is a garbage coach. One of the best imho.
i know what you mean sometimes im at work and i just yell out 'TITO STFU!!!!' and my coworkers just lol because tito is a universal standard of hatred.:thumb02:
i know what you mean sometimes im at work and i just yell out 'TITO STFU!!!!' and my coworkers just lol because tito is a universal standard of hatred.:thumb02:
I just thought he was trying to helpt the guys out but yeah it was a bit annoying but no more than ken flo's brother last night. Also wrong section bro.
When he went from trying to give advice to just wanting everyone to hear him talk it did get annoying, Tito just wants to be the center of the attention..
One guy who gets me during a fight is Kenflo's brother, that dude is loud.
Actually, in all of the TUF qualifying fights isn't one guy supposed to be cornered by Chuck's coaches and the other cornered by Tito's? If Tito was shouting instructions to help the guys that his coaches were cornering then that's all good.
Tito did give some good advice to some of the fighters, even if it was delivered in baboon speak. What I want to know is, what was his criteria for selecting which fighter he chooses to "support". I mean, initially he seemed to always give advice to any fighter on top. But then he started giving advice to dudes on their backs... and I got confused. Is it the ones he fancies? The ones with nice bottoms? Whichever fighter lives closest to Hunnington Beach?
It reminded me of that bullshit with Bisping, where some of his fighters he clearly knew already and supported more than the others. I suspect thats whats happening here. Not the most sporting behaviour. More like being a c*nt.
Finally, aside from the hilarious "tap from strikes" dagger than Chuck plunged into Tito, did any one else notice when Tito commented on how cockyness is good... and Dana turned to him with a look that said, "I want to stamp on your head you fecking idiot". That was proper undiluted Dana right there. Beautiful.
AND, whats up with Titso stating the bleedin' obvious all the time. "nice kick". "nice takedown". "nice punch". Always after an event that was so obvious, like a knockout kick, or a huge double leg takedown, or a punch that takes off somebodys head.
Tito is about as insightful as a blind cod in a muddy river.
I had no problem with it. Besides giving them helpful advice, something I'm quite sure up and coming fighters would love from a vet of the game, shouting direction to the fighters would tell Tito how well the fighter takes direction from a coach, something I'm sure would factor into his picks.
I know people have a lot of hate for Tito, hell I don't really care for him either, but something nobody can argue is his ability to coach. He's excellent at it, so who am I to question his methods?
Imagine you are the guy on the bottom, and all you can hear is Tito shouting, "Elbows!" over and over to the dude on top of you. How is that good for you?
Or you get a guy down and try to get to work, and Tito is shouting, "Up Up Up Upppp!"
Its fecking bullshit is what it is. There are two fighters in there. I cant believe anybody cant see how nasty this is for the dude NOT getting the "advice".
I loved when Chuck shut him down. Even Dana looked like he felt awkward as well but Chuck was just laughing. I get the coaching part but he isn't really on his team for starters, the fight was over so the put downs were not going to change anything, and you could tell by Tito's tone that he was doing to to kinda poke at the guy.
For everyone defending Tito, you have to realize he wasn't anyone's coach yet. He shouldn't be giving advice to one guy, he should be keeping his mouth shut and watching. But Tito Ortiz keeping his mouth shut is almost as hard as Jenna Jameson keeping her legs shut.
Didn't bother me at all. The guy was giving sound advice to amateur fighters.
In addition, if I were coaching (just hypothetical), I'd be shouting out advice too to see who is receptive to advice and who isn't. Case in point was the season with B.J. Penn and Andy Wang or whoever. Could've been avoided if Penn knew ahead of time the guy doesn't listen to advice.
Thing is he wasn't giving advice to both fighters, he would just pick a favorite and start shouting advice at them. I can imagine the TUF qualifiers are stressful enough without having to hear one of the coaches basically turning against you and yelling advice to your oponent. That really pissed me off.
The other part of that episode that was almost as funny as Chuck's put down, was when Tito started trying to talk to Dana about how cockiness was a good thing. Dana just gave him a look that said I hate you Tito...I hate you. lol.
During tryouts there are many things a coach is looking for here are a few of them:
Heart:
Does the fighter have the heart to stay in a fight when things are going bad and possibly turn it around. If a fighter is on the bottom and getting elbowed per a coaches instructions (like Tito was doing) and can still stand up and win the fight that will make that fighter shine in a favorable light.
Skill Set:
Before picking a fighter the coach would want to know what type of skill set a fighter has. Can the fighter strike, what type of wrestling skill does he have, does he have BJJ skills? By yelling to a fighter that he needs to get up, a coach can find out if the fighter has that ability (which is becoming one of the most important skills in MMA now with the high level wrestlers, or those with great counter-wrestling dominating in most weight classes).
Coachability:
When a coach is working with a fighter they do not want to waste their time and try to coach a fighter that is just going to go out and do what ever he wants to anyway. The coach could find something better to do! When offering coaching advice during a fight if the fighter does not react at all to it there is a good chance that they never will, making that fight much less appealing during the selection process.
Of course there is more they look at, but these 3 are VERY important and I think Tito getting involved in the tryouts was not only appropriate it will give him an advantage come selection time!
And by the way, I am not a Tito Nut Hugger… I don’t really like him as a fighter, but as a TUF coach he is one of the best, with out question.
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