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post #41 of 51 (permalink) Old 11-09-2010, 07:34 AM
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The thing that gets me about this whole thing is how can somebody who makes their living from fighting slam a guy about his profession, when that profession is a paramedic (or male nurse or whatever you want to call it)?

I have more respect for doctors and nurses than i will ever have for fighters.

Not only that but how can a wannabe fighter (Savak) slam Tait about his profession when he isnt even a fighter making a living yet?!

I think Kos is an A-Grade asshole and to be honest, quite a few of the contestants this year are total douchebags as well (Savak, Bruce Leeroy, that guy who keeps getting guilotined, to name a few).
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TUF producers are applying the concept of "there has to be someone people love to hate every season." If they think it "makes for good TV" then fine.

I don't think we need 3 or 4 douchebags this season, though. One is plenty; one and his little buddy at the most.


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Not only that but how can a wannabe fighter (Savak) slam Tait about his profession when he isnt even a fighter making a living yet?!
Sevak has had 11 fights in four years, so I don't know what you're talking about.

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I don't think we need 3 or 4 douchebags this season, though. One is plenty; one and his little buddy at the most.
lol, "one and his little buddy..."
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Sevak has had 11 fights in four years, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Still, he wont be making a 'good' living from fighting so my point still stands
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I love near the end of the scrap sequence, after talking to Dane, Koscheck says "This is definitely Georges's fault". Cannot begin to fathom the logic behind that call. That was Koscheck's fault for being a douche and not being able to handle a bit of banter. If you can't handle the banter, don't start it in the first place.

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Still, he wont be making a 'good' living from fighting so my point still stands
we dont know how much money he makes, and i dont see why it matters anyway. he is not a "wannabe" fighter anymore than someone who has been working as a lawyer for four years is a "wannabe" lawyer. im not saying that the things he said on the show are ok or anything, just that he is a real fighter, that much is indisputable. he's not one of the TUFers that was plucked right out of highschool with 1 ammy fight under his belt.

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I agree with HexRei. Although if you want to make a valid point, it could be that it would be a safe bet to guess that so far in Sevak's career, a male nurse has probably made more money than him in the last 4 years. (At least if you would only include his fighting career) An RN makes an average 60k per year. That is nice and a steady income. An average fighter who has only been booked on small time shows probably isn't making that much money. It wouldn't surprise me if Sevak has had a job on the side to make sure that he has had a steady income over the last few years during his off time. There is nothing wrong that at all either. Being a working man and a professional mixed martial artist would be impressive. We all need to put some bread on the table, and it is tough these days. Good for him if he is doing things like that. The only point I want to make is, why make fun of someone who is probably very financially secure and helps people at the same time when you're probably making less money and aren't exactly as beneficial to the world with your profession as they are? An RN beats a low tier mixed martial artist in every category. I guess that doesn't matter to Sevak because his profession is more "manly" in his eyes. Then again, that is debatable. I think apart of being a man is helping people as well.

Sorry for the rant, and I don't mean to be disrespectful to MMA fighters who haven't made it very far in their careers yet. It's a good profession and who knows, Sevak may make it far and end up more than financially secure because of his career. Just at this point in time, I don't know how much he makes but it's safe to say that he isn't making much and isn't making a difference in the world either with his career. He has no right putting someone else down for making a difference in the world. Even if he were headlining UFC cards, he wouldn't. Money isn't everything, after all. I just brought up the point about salaries to show another point of where an RN may have him beat.

HexRei is right when he said how bringing up Sevak's income shouldn't matter anyway, although the point was only used because it makes him look even more ignorant about making fun of male nurses. Money shouldn't matter but now Sevak has absolutely no grounds on making fun of them. He has no case other than saying "lawlz, it's not manly." and that was proven to be a false claim in my opinion.

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we dont know how much money he makes, and i dont see why it matters anyway. he is not a "wannabe" fighter anymore than someone who has been working as a lawyer for four years is a "wannabe" lawyer. im not saying that the things he said on the show are ok or anything, just that he is a real fighter, that much is indisputable. he's not one of the TUFers that was plucked right out of highschool with 1 ammy fight under his belt.
Ok, yeah, i suppose when you put it like that...
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Entirely different to joke bitween friends. I make stereotypical jokes about my jewish friends all the time, but it doesn't mean its ok for me to go to some random jewish guy and make fun of him.
Same thing with couple transfer student friends of mine, I dick around with them about their finnish skills while they make fun of my english accent, doesn't mean I would go to some poor refugee and trash him for not being able to speak finnish or english properly.

In my opinion that whole drama was overrated and nothing to go emo about, hell if you are supposed to be a professional fighter and can't handle a li'l bit of smacktalk you started without bursting into tears, you are propably in wrong business to begin with.
Just pointing out that its entirely different to make fun of your friends than make fun of people that aren't your friends. The context means alot.
You must have forgotten when Kos was making fun of GSP's accent earlier in the season... you and Kos seem to have the same memory span.
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