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What you didn't see in the last episoode of TUF

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#1 ·
It turns out that the male nurse was making fun of the Armenians accents in Koscheks's team (racist prick!!!), and not only that, but Kos also calms his team down after the inccident, and even tells his team to ignore him from now on, and even goes back to the male nurse and apologizes for trying to assult him.
Heres the link with video:

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/11/5/1795808/maybe-kos-isnt-such-a-bad-guy-after-all

Kos was right when he said that GSp just hired him to push his buttons, call me crazy but I think that's mighty cowardly by GSp. ;)
 
#3 ·
That apology was completely insincere as were his reasons listed during the apology. Saying he only attacked Tate because Tate was slammin his team? Well his team was slammin Tate, and Kos had been screwing with GSP and his team the whole time. And even if Kos hadn't been the instigator the whole time that's no excuse to lay hands on someone over words.

btw, when Tate was making fun of Savak? They started that shit. Here's a transcript of what was said between Savak and Tate right after Kos PANTSED TATE ON TV.

Tate: Thanks now your gunna get me some ***** showing my dick on national TV
Savak: it not gunna the get you the nothing.
Tate: Da der dad der dader what?
Savak: Have a you a ever been the cut?
Tate: Da der da what?
Savak: Yeah you are a the male nurse bro
Tate: I don't understand what you are talking about? (middle eastern accent)

Is it just me or was Savak actually trying to threaten to cut Tate?


Oh and lastly, GSP didn't hire Tate to push Kos' buttons. Tate is a good friend and longtime employee of Team Jackson, he's there to assist with training like the other coaches. GSP actually seemed pretty disappointed that Tate let himself get drawn into Kos' headgames, and according to Andy Main's video blog, GSP sent Tate home after this to avoid future incidents.
 
#6 ·
That apology was completely insincere as were his reasons listed during the apology. Saying he only attacked Tate because Tate was slammin his team? Well his team was slammin Tate, and Kos had been screwing with GSP and his team the whole time. And even if Kos hadn't been the instigator the whole time that's no excuse to lay hands on someone over words.

btw, when Tate was making fun of Savak? They started that shit. Here's a transcript of what was said between Savak and Tate right after Kos PANTSED TATE ON TV.

Tate: Thanks now your gunna get me some ***** showing my dick on national TV
Savak: it not gunna the get you the nothing.
Tate: Da der dad der dader what?
Savak: Have a you a ever been the cut?
Tate: Da der da what?
Savak: Yeah you are a the male nurse bro
Tate: I don't understand what you are talking about? (middle eastern accent)

Is it just me or was Savak actually trying to threaten to cut Tate?
This.

Kos started talking shit to Tate before Tate had said anything to Kos or his team. Kos talked shit, Tate talked shit back, then Kos' teammates jumped in.

I love how Koscheck talks about Tate pushing his buttons when that was exactly what Kos was trying to do to Tate with minimal success. Tate got the best of the verbal exchanges so Kos tries to become the good guy all of a sudden.

Either way some of that seemed scripted to me anyways.
 
#4 ·
It turns out that the male nurse was making fun of the Armenians accents in Koscheks's team (racist prick!!!), and not only that, but Kos also calms his team down after the inccident, and even tells his team to ignore him from now on, and even goes back to the male nurse and apologizes for trying to assult him.
Heres the link with video:

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/11/5/1795808/maybe-kos-isnt-such-a-bad-guy-after-all

Kos was right when he said that GSp just hired him to push his buttons, call me crazy but I think that's mighty cowardly by GSp. ;)
You're crazy :p
 
#7 ·
At least he was sort of a man and apologized but he started all the conflict. Koscheck starting calling Tate a male nurse and trying to get under his skin. I dont care if he says he got mad about Tate making fun of the armenians, you could tell he got really pissed off when tate mentioned faking the knee to the head. And GSP was embarrassed the whole time so i dont believe for a second that GSP brought Tate there to talk crap to Koscheck.
 
#8 ·
Okay maybe I'm a little crazy :p

But making fun of somebody because of there accent, and the way they talk is definately crossing the line. At least Kos appologized to the dude. Getting pantsed and being called a male nurse is like hanging out with your boys clowning with each other. Not that big of a deal.
 
#26 ·
Yeah, despite cutting out the Kos apology [which was nice to see], its still slightly besides the point. Kos started the beef with the nurse and then Sevak jumped on the band wagon, which isn't on at all. The contestants should have the utmost respect for their opposition and their staff and team Koscheck has had all the decorum of a ******* rapist. This also negates the idea that GSP hired the nurse to get at Kos. Although not sure why they need a team paramedic when there's paramedics on call the whole time.
 
#27 ·
The on-call paramedics are there for legitimate injuries like thrown out backs, broken bones, dislocations etc, tings you need a hospital for. But things like swelling, muscle strains, etc, these are things a single paramedic in use of the team can handle very easily on his own without a visit to the ER, hell a basic EMT could handle that kind of stuff.
 
#37 ·
Koschek was doing damage control. Serious damage control. Probably at the behest of the producers and Dana.

Bottom line, he laid his hands on another person, he actually grabbed him by the neck. (not even a contestant or fighter, but a medic, there to help people) he grabbed the guy by the throat for Christs sake.

If Josh was a fighter on the show, he would have been kicked off without a debate or second thought. And as a so called coach, he should have been kicked off the show even faster because he should be setting an example. He should have lost his chance at the title. But I don't think the UFC wanted to loose that main event and I don't blame them. So the UFC and Dana did Damage control and put this to rest.

The bottom line is, we clearly saw that Koscheck can dish it out, but he can't take it (sign of all cowards). He complained that Tate made fun of "his guys", well Josh himself has made fun of plenty of GSP's guys, Cody for one. I guess that's okay.

I'm glad he didn't get kicked off the show and loose his chance at the title. But in retrospect, he probably should have. He had no right to grab Tate by the neck, just because Tate's insult was better than Josh's.
 
#41 ·
The thing that gets me about this whole thing is how can somebody who makes their living from fighting slam a guy about his profession, when that profession is a paramedic (or male nurse or whatever you want to call it)?

I have more respect for doctors and nurses than i will ever have for fighters.

Not only that but how can a wannabe fighter (Savak) slam Tait about his profession when he isnt even a fighter making a living yet?!

I think Kos is an A-Grade asshole and to be honest, quite a few of the contestants this year are total douchebags as well (Savak, Bruce Leeroy, that guy who keeps getting guilotined, to name a few).
 
#42 ·
TUF producers are applying the concept of "there has to be someone people love to hate every season." If they think it "makes for good TV" then fine.

I don't think we need 3 or 4 douchebags this season, though. One is plenty; one and his little buddy at the most.
 
#46 ·
I love near the end of the scrap sequence, after talking to Dane, Koscheck says "This is definitely Georges's fault". Cannot begin to fathom the logic behind that call. That was Koscheck's fault for being a douche and not being able to handle a bit of banter. If you can't handle the banter, don't start it in the first place.
 
#48 · (Edited)
I agree with HexRei. Although if you want to make a valid point, it could be that it would be a safe bet to guess that so far in Sevak's career, a male nurse has probably made more money than him in the last 4 years. (At least if you would only include his fighting career) An RN makes an average 60k per year. That is nice and a steady income. An average fighter who has only been booked on small time shows probably isn't making that much money. It wouldn't surprise me if Sevak has had a job on the side to make sure that he has had a steady income over the last few years during his off time. There is nothing wrong that at all either. Being a working man and a professional mixed martial artist would be impressive. We all need to put some bread on the table, and it is tough these days. Good for him if he is doing things like that. The only point I want to make is, why make fun of someone who is probably very financially secure and helps people at the same time when you're probably making less money and aren't exactly as beneficial to the world with your profession as they are? An RN beats a low tier mixed martial artist in every category. I guess that doesn't matter to Sevak because his profession is more "manly" in his eyes. Then again, that is debatable. I think apart of being a man is helping people as well.

Sorry for the rant, and I don't mean to be disrespectful to MMA fighters who haven't made it very far in their careers yet. It's a good profession and who knows, Sevak may make it far and end up more than financially secure because of his career. Just at this point in time, I don't know how much he makes but it's safe to say that he isn't making much and isn't making a difference in the world either with his career. He has no right putting someone else down for making a difference in the world. Even if he were headlining UFC cards, he wouldn't. Money isn't everything, after all. I just brought up the point about salaries to show another point of where an RN may have him beat.

HexRei is right when he said how bringing up Sevak's income shouldn't matter anyway, although the point was only used because it makes him look even more ignorant about making fun of male nurses. Money shouldn't matter but now Sevak has absolutely no grounds on making fun of them. He has no case other than saying "lawlz, it's not manly." and that was proven to be a false claim in my opinion.
 
#51 ·
Kos is an ass, he just couldn't take it that he was getting out talked. He's been a prick the whole series, he's insulted George, some of the fighters, assaulted a medic, played constant games... then everytime someone does it back he gets in a hissy, can't wait for GSP to beat his ass :D
 
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