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Lesnar and JDS to coach TUF 13

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#1 · (Edited)
After months of speculation and more than a dozen rumored names, the UFC today announced heavyweight contenders Brock Lesnar and Junior Dos Santos will be coaches on the upcoming 13th season of "The Ultimate Fighter."

The announcement came via UFC.com.

"The Ultimate Fighter 13" debuts March 30 on Spike TV, and a live finale is slated for June 4. The coaches meet in a season-ending fight at an event to be announced.

Although initially announced as a middleweight and welterweight season of the UFC's long-running reality series, MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) reported earlier this week that producers instead opted to make "TUF 13" a welterweights-only show. Production begins this month in Las Vegas. In an elimination round of fights, 28 hopefuls will fight for 14 official cast spots. The show uses a 32-slot tournament, which includes two "wild card" picks who earn a second life in the quarterfinals.

Over the past couple months, many UFC veterans had been rumored for potential "TUF 13" coaching slots, including Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, Frank Mir, Shane Carwin, Wanderlei Silva, Chael Sonnen, Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Dominick Cruz, Urijah Faber, Anthony Pettis, Jose Aldo and others. Ultimately, though, officials went with the big men, Lesnar and Dos Santos.

Lesnar (5-2 MMA, 4-2 UFC) is a former titleholder who lost his belt to current champ Cain Velasquez in October. The former WWE star has emerged as the UFC's top pay-per-view draw, and his inclusion in "TUF" should translate to big ratings.

Dos Santos (12-1 MMA, 6-0 UFC), meanwhile, recently claimed top-contender status by posting a 6-0 record in the UFC. Recent wins have come over Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic, Gilbert Yvel, Gabriel Gonzaga and Roy Nelson.

"TUF" debuted in 2005 and proved a ratings hit. It also helped the UFC's and MMA's move into the mainstream. Since the debut season, the show has launched the career of more than 100 UFC fighters, and past cast members Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans and Matt Serra went on to win UFC titles.

For more on "The Ultimate Fighter 13," stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/22057/bro...tos-named-the-ultimate-fighter-13-coaches.mma
 
#49 ·
makes more sense to me to have Carwin vs JDS for no 1 contender and mir vs lesner on the show(even higher ratings) then the winner fights the winner for the real no 1 contender just in time for cains return
 
#51 ·
At first I was pissed off since JDS would have to wait forever to fight, but the more I think about it the more I like it. I've been curious to see what kind of dude JDS is since i'm a huge fan so no better way than a season as a TUF coach?

As for Brock, my instinct tells me he'll be half acting/half being himself at best. Personally, I think he's a pretty arrogant douche most of the time so maybe TUF will change that perception, although I won't be holding my breath.

I wonder what choreographed beefs they'll have Brock and JDS start with each other.
 
#53 ·
I'm glad they didn't use Heavywieights for the contenders this time, god another season of 45 second gas tanks would kill me.

Overall it'll be an interesting watch, as for the fight, it's one of those I won't even hazzard a guess on, but figured it would happen at some point in time.
 
#54 ·
I guess we finally get to see the coaches do pure coaching instead of spending half their time pranking each other and trying to get into each others' heads. At least that's what I hope we'll see, with the UFC and Spike being what they are I'm pretty sure they'll gimmick up some beefs for ratings. The coach rivalries can be pretty funny at times but after a while it does get a bit old.
 
#93 ·
Yea, if Brock wins, I really don't want to see Brock vs. Cain this soon. What will Brock prove if he takes down JDS and keeps him there? Why will we think a second fight with Cain will go any different?

I hope this doesn't leave Carwin for Big Nog. Maybe Nog gets winner of CC and Schaub.
 
#57 ·
Wow, Brock gets hardly any respect here.

Ever since coming into the UFC Brock has fought guys with more talent, more experience and more skill. It never stopped him from being champion.

I recall before the Cain fight a lot of people were writing off both Cain and Junior. Brock was beat up in the fight against Cain because he got caught with more than a few massive shots, but Cain was also injured by one bull rush. Had Brock kept his composure (better yet avoided that first punch) it may have been a different fight.

Brock has plenty of time to improve, hell he has been doing nothing but improve since first joining the UFC. To write Brock off as having no chance against the likes of Junior is silly.

We are talking about heavyweights. A 250+ pound guy who punches another 250+ guy first has the advantage. OR if a heavyweight can put his weight on a guy and bring him down and control the fight has the advantage.

I have to say this is a interesting fight. Brock improved big time after his first loss to Mir, and adapted, and I have no doubt that he has the ability to do the same against Junior. He will improve on his striking, I guess the question really is how much?

The other question is will it matter on the feet as Junior does not have the same pedigree as Cain in terms of wrestling. If Brock takes it to the ground Junior will have it pretty tough.

For ratings, this will be the highest rated TUF show ever. That is the only thing that is guaranteed.
 
#58 ·
Brock gets this match simply because he is the biggest draw in the HW division, there is no one in the HW division deserving to face JDS right now, including Brock. Since JDS has asked for a match though, who else do you give? every fighter is either on a 1 win streak or already lost, so you give it to your biggest draw.

JDS asked for it, and I hope Brock wins!
 
#59 ·
Who is more deserving to fight JDS though (injuries aside)? Brock is still a top 5 UFC heavyweight, and everyone else is either injured or paired up.

JDS can't sit on the sidelines for 8 months, and of course people have always wanted to see this fight (remember if Brock won he would have had to fight JDS anyway).

I mean would for a TV show Brock will bring ratings no doubt, but that should not discount him from being a legit contender at heavyweight, even after the loss to Cain.
 
#69 ·
I understand the decision ratings wise, but I would have preferred Edgar and Maynard. If Brock gets past JDS he will already have to climb back in the cage with Cain. JDS frankly shouldn't even have to risk his spot. Plus, Edgar and Maynard are both real talented guys and it would've given the UFC a big opportunity to put them over with the fans.
 
#77 ·
I'm definatly gonna watch this season. Good choice of coaches.:thumbsup:
 
#85 ·
So doubtful JDS will get his title shot at Cain, Brock will lay on him for five rounds, doubt he'll be able to stuff Brock and KO him like Cain did.

Also, I don't know about you guys but if I was a fighter on this TUF I would have a hard time taking anything Lesnar says seriously or as helpful. Because chances are most guys will have more fights than he does. Not to mention he's not that technically skilled, he just uses his size to overpower guys.

It should be Carwin and JDS, Brock hasn't done anything to prove he deserves another shot at Cain. What makes anyone think it will go any differently than the first. Not to mention Carwin v JDS would be a barn burner.
 
#90 ·
Doesnt seem like good combination to me, Lesnar is such a big character he needs another character to make things work (or "to create more drama" i should say) or else it will be boring IMO. JDS will probably not react to anything Lesnar says, does or anything, where as a guy like Mir would of made this show a 100X more interesting. Also would be a fight that makes way more sense.
 
#92 · (Edited)
And what is with this whole size thing? Everyone is incredibly amazed that Brock was 'stuffed' by Cain who weighs a lot less than him. First off Cain is a very accomplished wrestler, who regularily trained with guys who were a lot bigger than him. In terms of 'smaller fighters beating bigger fighters' it happens ALL the time. Watch smaller heavyweights like Cro Cop, Fedor, Couture, Nogueira, Arlovski (on and on and on) who have regularily fought guys who were 50-80 pounds heavier than them and won easily.

Size is an advantage, but not a deal breaker in any fight.
 
#94 ·
And what is with this whole size thing? Everyone is incredibly amazed that Brock was 'stuffed' by Cain who weighs a lot less than him. First off Cain is a very accomplished wrestler, who regularily trained with guys who were a lot bigger than him. In terms of 'smaller fighters beating bigger fighters' it happens ALL the time. Watch smaller heavyweights like Cro Cop, Fedor, Couture, Nogueira, Arlovski (on and on and on) who have regularily fought guys who fought guys who were 50-80 pounds heavier than them and won easily.

Size is an advantage, but not a deal breaker in any fight.
Well... When it comes to wrestling size is god. They don't have wrestling weight classes a few pounds apart because they think it's cool that way. Size and strength are along the same importance as skill. In high school our best wrestler was a guy I'd toss around like a rag doll, but I had 25lbs on him.
 
#95 ·
JDS vs Lesnar, excellento!

JDS doesn't have much exposure. He was slotted to fight for the title, but not many know much about him. This gives him a chance to get his name out there and to add much needed depth that is currently lacking in the heavyweight division.

Lesnar is very isolated from MMA. This gives him a chance to bridge the gap from being in a gym and training with a small group of people to being able to appreciate and enjoy the sport a little more. I think, he'll be a better fighter as a result of coaching other fighters. The world may realize he has much better BJJ and striking skills than hes credited for.

Win/win.
 
#97 ·
It's probably a good idea because there's no way Lesnar and Mir are going to NOT KILL each other in the six weeks of filming. Just imagine how many doors, walls, and cars are going to be smashed on either side. Then they'll probably end up fighting earlier on several occasions. The bad blood between those two is far beyond Rashad and Rampage. Too bad they weren't the coaches before they fought a second time.

This is such a challenging fight for JDS as he's already promised the TITLE FIGHT. If JDS wins and goes on to defeat Cain then that hands down is probably one of the longest, hardest ladders any fighter had to climb to get to the top...lolz! That's like MOrtal Kombat on EXPERT MODE.
 
#99 ·
I said in another thread that Brock is the logical choice to replace Cain and the UFC seems to agree. I'm no fan of a greenhorn like Brock coaching guys that are probably in the game a lot longer than Brock, but I guess that doesn't really matter. There's no title involved either, so I guess it's the best we'll get.
 
#100 ·
What a bizarre choice of coaches from a practical as well as ratings perspective. First of all, Brock is one of the least experienced HW's on the UFC roster, so having him "coach" is obviously a transparent attempt to boost flagging ratings for a stale reality show that has worn out it's welcome with it's repetitive and predictable programming.

Second, casual fans really don't want to watch JDS. He doesn't speak English, and is about as controversial as a girl scout.
 
#102 ·
Brock is not one of the "least experienced" HW's. He has a solid wrestling base and underrated BJJ and striking. If fighters like Tito who have mostly wrestling and Rampage who doesn't coach or train can be 'coaches' why not Brock?

I want to see JDS. I think he's also very underrated and should get more exposure being next in line for a title shot.

What's with "casual fans" criticizing Spike for attempting to create drama to "boost flagging ratings for a stale reality tv show" then criticizing JDS for being "as controversial as a girl scout"?

I guess they like to contradict themselves.
 
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