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Old 05-26-2011, 08:25 AM   #291 (permalink)
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still want to see tony f everyone up and laugh in their face, bunch of crybabies especially clay i wouldda smacked that street scum right in the head, ludacris how this is suddenly the worst thing ever done now
So you don't see a problem when a guy randomly starts flipping off and getting things real personal when everyone was just having fun and goofing around?
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:05 AM   #292 (permalink)
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Pretty great fights tonight considering what we've seen so far. Action packed. One ko finish from Tony and great heart displayed from Zach.

Zach and Charlie go the distance. Charlie wins UD.
Tony defeats Ryan via KO first round.


Now on to the Tony and Charlie dispute. The whole house 'celebrated' the semi finals. And with that comes alcohol. So Tony & Charlie get a little rough than confrontational. Tony than talks about Charlies kid. Saying 'Wheres your kid?'.

From what I've read on fourms is that Tonys the bad guy. I do agree to a certain extent he's the bad guy. However I'll play devils advocate. If you guys play close attention in his pre fight interview. He discusses how he never had a father and how he only grew up with his mom.

So from my understanding Tony has the experience of not having a father. This obviously triggered his childhood emotions. And I mean what kind of father is Charlie? For this guy to get his kid taken away? Probably not a good one. I mean comon. He's on a reality T.V. show lost his first fight. And says he needs to find a 'way' to get his kid back. Comon guys this guys no good.

Sorry for my rant. But I mean every ones bashing Tony b/c of what he said without looking deeper into the issue. You gotta cut the guy some slack cause he's had no father.

Lmao.. U really can turn chicken shit (situation) into a chicken salad!.. Hats off to u.

It doesnt matter what Charlie is doing wrong.. it doesnt matter if Charlie isnt taking care of his son,, It doesnt matter if he took money from Chuck because he requested him to... Thing is.. We CAN NOT judge anyone for their mistakes. Or may i say.. we SHOULD NOT.. Whatever his problems are.. thats his personal matter.. No one should poke his nose in another man's personal life.

Tony definitely crossed the line for no damn reason. And i hope he pays for it. nonetheless I am expecting a good fight between Chuck and tony next week.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:06 AM   #293 (permalink)
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Tonys shouting at his dad for leaving him... and Charlie is massively over reacting because he knows hes been a bad father. Neither are actually angry at each other. Its plain human psychology. Add to that the extra emotion of training and fighting, and you have episode 9. Quite frankly, I'm surprised it took this long.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:07 AM   #294 (permalink)
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So you don't see a problem when a guy randomly starts flipping off and getting things real personal when everyone was just having fun and goofing around?
i dont care this is mma where you scout the real talent not the assclowns already eliminated miserably, besides the fact that he was drunk kosheck and southworth never had any witch hunt happen to them
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:07 AM   #295 (permalink)
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One one hand you never talk about someone else's child unless you want to get punched in the face.

But in this case, someone had to break it to Charlie that he's a self absorbed douche who will never make it in MMA and he needs to get out and get a real job and support his kid.

Anyone else (maybe not Len) I would say Tony was in the wrong but not with Charlie. To take money from another cast member, to beg for charity is just disturbing, but combine that with the fact that he disrespected his coach and threw a bitch fit over a ******* metaphor is pathetic.

Ryan fought for his kid, you believed that. Keon seeing the hand he was dealt left the show and to likely get his job back and support his kids. Charlie went in the octagon and didn't even try, it was one of the most pathetic displays I've seen since Blake Bowman quit in 49 seconds on season 6.
Agreed. Also, If they were contractually bound why did Keon get to leave? I mean after I lost my first fight I'd ******* leave. No ******* ifs buts or ands. It's just a waste of fing time. Especially when my kid got taken away from me.
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why would anyone watch a show which has 4 remaining fighters..?.. The losers also may get a chance at the finale. And they can have their chance to shine there.
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Lmao.. U really can turn chicken shit (situation) into a chicken salad!.. Hats off to u.

It doesnt matter what Charlie is doing wrong.. it doesnt matter if Charlie isnt taking care of his son,, It doesnt matter if he took money from Chuck because he requested him to... Thing is.. We CAN NOT judge anyone for their mistakes. Or may i say.. we SHOULD NOT.. Whatever his problems are.. thats his personal matter.. No one should poke his nose in another man's personal life.

Tony definitely crossed the line for no damn reason. And i hope he pays for it. nonetheless I am expecting a good fight between Chuck and tony next week.
I don't agree with what Tony said. However I can understand where he's coming from. I hate the fact that every ones bashing him with out looking deeper into the issue.

Yes, he did say some thing wrong. But I mean if you grew up with no fing father got intoxicated and lived with another man who you know lost his kid, accepts pity charity from another fighter, and ain't all that respectful. Who wouldn't be hurt? I mean I believe the majority of people would be. Put your self in Tony's shoe for a second and think that you would have not acted the same way. He's experienced what its like not to have a father.

And I know I would have acted in similar fashion. Knowing that this man I live with could be with his kid but chose to be on a reality T.V show instead. And we really don't know all the facts. The fighters all know each other on a more personal level than we ever well. And from my re collation we were just notified about Charlies situation but I'm pretty sure he's gone in to more depth about it.

I don't justify what Tony did. However, I do understand why he did it. And that's all I'm really trying to point out. Cut the guy some slack he's a fatherless bastard himself.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:09 PM   #298 (permalink)
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I don't agree with what Tony said. However I can understand where he's coming from. I hate the fact that every ones bashing him with out looking deeper into the issue.

Yes, he did say some thing wrong. But I mean if you grew up with no fing father got intoxicated and lived with another man who you know lost his kid, accepts pity charity from another fighter, and ain't all that respectful. Who wouldn't be hurt? I mean I believe the majority of people would be. Put your self in Tony's shoe for a second and think that you would have not acted the same way. He's experienced what its like not to have a father.

And I know I would have acted in similar fashion. Knowing that this man I live with could be with his kid but chose to be on a reality T.V show instead. And we really don't know all the facts. The fighters all know each other on a more personal level than we ever well. And from my re collation we were just notified about Charlies situation but I'm pretty sure he's gone in to more depth about it.

I don't justify what Tony did. However, I do understand why he did it. And that's all I'm really trying to point out. Cut the guy some slack he's a fatherless bastard himself.
Totally agree.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:39 PM   #299 (permalink)
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I have daddy issues to, doesn't mean I can walk around being a bitch. And being a bitch to a guy who can't see his son because he's behind on support payments.. Being on the show is helping him see his kid, sure he lost but by sticking around he'll get a shot in the ufc and make some cash. I understood why he had that reaction it just doesn't mean anything to me. We all have shit and we deal with it, life isn't fair and Tony should get over himself.
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Tony was an ass and deserves the hate from the other guys imo. i have a couple friends who didnt grow up with a father and they dont go around being dicks about it. gtfo making an excuse for him. that sucks he didnt have his dad around but that doesnt give him an excuse to be a dick like that. possibly if his dad was around he could still be like that. if people are going to bash Charlie for being there when his kid is at home then the other guys there that have kids should as well. they are there for their kids to begin with. Charlie was pathetic in his fight i agree with that but hopefully what money he has made he does something with that for his kid just like i hope the others will. i kinda liked Tony but i dont anymore and hope Chuck whoops his ass.

as for Charlie we dont know the situation with his kid so im not going to make an opinion on that. i dont get why some are saying Charlie asked for that money from Chuck cause if people paid attention he didnt ask for that from Chuck. Chuck offered it to him and Charlie said i cant accept that. Chuck was saying no you are going to take it. Charlie even said to the camera that that was Chuck's money cause he won his fight and deserved it. we dont even know if Chuck really gave him that money unless it was revealed on the aftermath ep. i havent watched it so idk but Charlie didnt ask for that.

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