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Old 04-17-2011, 09:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You guys are being too harsh on him about the losing speech on the second episode. This guy has lost enough in his MMA career to know what it's like and guide them. LEAVE HIM ALOOONE!
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I don't get the hate for the wrestling coach guy. Really JDS IMO comes off like he wants to hold his fighters hands and treat them like kids. Polley treated them like the professional fighters they are supposed to be. A good coach is not there to be your friend and tell you all the sunshine and lollipop stories you want to hear. I think Lew saw JDS struggling because of his lack of English and Lew tried to step up to the plate and be a leader. JDS wanted to be the big dog and was threatened by the way Lew stepped up. I think people should see this for the insecurity from JDS that it is. JDS is not a great coach, he just doesn't want people to think less of him because his wrestling coach had to do the coaching for him.
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i don't agree with the above post, the dude is a douche bag and JDS seems like a far better coach than Lesnar. Just because he isn't training these guys like they're in military school doesn't mean he isn't training them the right way.

JDS told this coach that it was TEAM DOS SANTOS a long time ago and they continued to butt heads. Lew Polley was there to train wrestling, he wasn't there to rub shoulders with the head coach of his team. Any good coach would have ejected this guy from the training sessions. He was being a jerk.
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Why does he seem like a better coach than Lesnar? Because he is nicer? Because he wasn't a prowrestler? Or just because you like him better? Lesnar pushes his guys harder and offers them better advice in the cage. So he isn't a big sweet heart and comes off a little abrasive, that doesn't change the fact his team is learning and working harder.
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I don't agree with those sentiments. Brock isn't as supportive and doesn't always seem there. Half the time I see brock on the show he's just sitting on the couch in that pre-fight room. His corner advice also needs a lot of work when compared to JDS who seems to have a good eye for a fight.

JDS is always calling out instructions to help his man progress in the fight, brock's fighter throws 2 jabs that land so he yells the obvious instruction to keep jabbing...

I haven't seen brock do enough coaching to really judge him TBH, and it isn't from a lack of watching the show.

I also really just don't agree with your sentiment of JDS holding his fighter's hand. He gives great advice, works them hard, works them in a more personal manner, has their back in victory and defeat. And has a lot of advice to offer not just in a physical sense when it concerns the fight game but the mental as well.

It's easy to lump everyone who dislikes lesnar into the "because he's a wwe guy, or he's a dickhead" category. whatever helps you sleep at night. If I'm wrong in my assessment of JDS' coaching abilities and techniques, do feel free to enlighten me though.

and in regards to Lew Polley being booted off of Team Dos Santos, let's say there's a jui jitsu coach at Matt Serra's school for jui jitsu. Matt Serra has his techniques and his methods that he teaches his students with and I'm sure he likes his assistants to maintain his principals and values, not go behind his back or right in front of him and be like "I here what you're saying, but listen up guys, this is how it is and how I see it." There's no room for that stepping on toes business with coaches because it IS about the fighters on the show. To put it simply, Lew Polly should have known better.

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I guess JDS shouting "yes!! yes!!, Elbows!!" Yes yes" is his great corner advice because its pretty much all he yells. Lesnar's advice may seem to be obvious but he is yelling at them to use there length,take there guy down, underhooks and spin off the cage, let him up. It may be a language thing but Lesnar is offering far better advice during the fights.

I don't get what great advice JDS is giving in this personal manner or how its helping. The guy barely seems like he can communicate with his guys. "Oh don't be sad you fight hard" Whoopity doo. I have not heard JDS say or do a single thing that makes me think he himself has anything to do with the success or failure of his team. He just seems to be there to take the credit.

I don't see what Lew Polley did that was so bad. He was tried to help the guys improve as fighters when JDS just wanted him to concentrate on just improving them as wrestlers. To me that isn't a guy not listening unless he was directly contradicting what one of the other coaches was saying which at no time seemed to be the case.
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I thought the statement lee polley made at the beginning of this weeks episode was pretty contradictory. JDS was giving his guys a pep talk in defeat, and Lew Polley chimes in with a blatant contradiction to JDS' statements. You would never hear and have not heard someone from brock's coaching staff doing things like that. JDS also told Lew Polley how he wanted to train these guys, and again Lew Polley had an attitude as if it were HIS way or the highway when it was actually the other way around.

I think Brock and JDS have a lot to offer their team in terms of coaching, and they both also have a different technique, attitude and mentality when it comes to training. If this season has shown anything, it's that both lens techniques have ended up with mixed results. I don't think you can call one of their techniques right or wrong, or better or worse. Especially when it really depends on the fighter being trained at the end of the day. Both coaches are pretty green themselves and it shows up in both of their training techniques in my opinion.
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:51 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I don't agree with those sentiments. Brock isn't as supportive and doesn't always seem there. Half the time I see brock on the show he's just sitting on the couch in that pre-fight room. His corner advice also needs a lot of work when compared to JDS who seems to have a good eye for a fight.

JDS is always calling out instructions to help his man progress in the fight, brock's fighter throws 2 jabs that land so he yells the obvious instruction to keep jabbing...

I haven't seen brock do enough coaching to really judge him TBH, and it isn't from a lack of watching the show.

I also really just don't agree with your sentiment of JDS holding his fighter's hand. He gives great advice, works them hard, works them in a more personal manner, has their back in victory and defeat. And has a lot of advice to offer not just in a physical sense when it concerns the fight game but the mental as well.

It's easy to lump everyone who dislikes lesnar into the "because he's a wwe guy, or he's a dickhead" category. whatever helps you sleep at night. If I'm wrong in my assessment of JDS' coaching abilities and techniques, do feel free to enlighten me though.

and in regards to Lew Polley being booted off of Team Dos Santos, let's say there's a jui jitsu coach at Matt Serra's school for jui jitsu. Matt Serra has his techniques and his methods that he teaches his students with and I'm sure he likes his assistants to maintain his principals and values, not go behind his back or right in front of him and be like "I here what you're saying, but listen up guys, this is how it is and how I see it." There's no room for that stepping on toes business with coaches because it IS about the fighters on the show. To put it simply, Lew Polly should have known better.
I and even JDS own fighter see it a completely the other way around. In just last night's episode they had the fighter talking how they were worried about JDS being the only guy in the corner because they can't understand his instructions. And Lew wasn't there just to be a wrestling coach; JDS said from the begining he was brought into relate to the guys because he was a native english speaker and all the blackhouse coaches are brazillians.
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I don't get the hate for the wrestling coach guy. Really JDS IMO comes off like he wants to hold his fighters hands and treat them like kids. Polley treated them like the professional fighters they are supposed to be. A good coach is not there to be your friend and tell you all the sunshine and lollipop stories you want to hear. I think Lew saw JDS struggling because of his lack of English and Lew tried to step up to the plate and be a leader. JDS wanted to be the big dog and was threatened by the way Lew stepped up. I think people should see this for the insecurity from JDS that it is. JDS is not a great coach, he just doesn't want people to think less of him because his wrestling coach had to do the coaching for him.
Very insightful points. That said, I do kinda feel for Dos Santos and see where he was coming from. I think if the cameras weren't rolling on him, he'd be a bit more reserved about Lew stepping up, but his repuation is pretty much on the line and he is trying to lead and take charge, for better or worse. I'm not saying that JDS is trying being fake or anything, but I think a lot of people in his position would be conflicted about what to do. I do agree that it was a bit extreme letting Lew go like that though.

A little off topic but don't you guys think that JDS is an attractive bloke? I'm not gay or anything but there is something very handsome about him. Funny ears not aside.
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Very insightful points. That said, I do kinda feel for Dos Santos and see where he was coming from. I think if the cameras weren't rolling on him, he'd be a bit more reserved about Lew stepping up, but his repuation is pretty much on the line and he is trying to lead and take charge, for better or worse. I'm not saying that JDS is trying being fake or anything, but I think a lot of people in his position would be conflicted about what to do. I do agree that it was a bit extreme letting Lew go like that though.

A little off topic but don't you guys think that JDS is an attractive bloke? I'm not gay or anything but there is something very handsome about him. Funny ears not aside.

Anyone who saw yesterday's episode with him winning the football challenge (doing the kiss-blowing and skipping as he was running back lmfao) and then chuckling and distributing all the money to brock's team and coaches, then says they DON'T have a crush on JDS, is lying.



But yeah Lew challenged Junior's authority blatantly, and repeatedly, it's ridiculous to think anything else was going to happen and JDS was very professional and upfront about the whole situation. Lew Polley seems like a total asshole and Cigano is one of the nicest guys the sport has ever seen, it blows my mind when people like Toxic find reasons to side with Polley.
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