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post #51 of 91 (permalink) Old 06-04-2006, 09:29 PM
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OK thats cool i have faith in Sham. He shall prevail over that trash talking S.O.B. How can any say that Tito is good. Yall must havent watched him against Chuck. Chuck beat the hell out of him. Sure Tito he has his good fights against no names but hes still good
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lol did you see Sham vs Tito 1?

I dunno i say Shams chances are very very very slim.
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Chuck would beat the snot out of Ken too, if he had the opportunity. Tito crushed Ken last time and Ken's knowledge of jiu-jitsu still hasn't improved, as anyone who watches TUF can tell you.

Tito will beat Ken either by KO, TKO or ref stoppage, it's that simple. Leave Chuck out of it, he's better than both of them.



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I was just saying that Chuck beat the hell out of him. I didnt say that they where better than him.

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shamrocks pride gets in the way

I am not taking anything away from Ken Shamrock, who truly is a living legend. He is around 40 now.... and time waits for no one..... Tito will beat his ass worse than the first time.... I hate to sound like that guy, but... Shamrock in his prime vs. Tito in his prime would be a hell of a fight.... I, personally will take no pleasure in seeing Tito beat up a fighter who is way past his prime
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I still think Sham, will win this fight. In his prime Tito would not stand a chance. To be honest Sham, may have not taken the first fight seriously. But you can bet he will be ready this time.

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Sham will win then we will see Tito say i was 100% so it wasnt a fare fight.
I like the way that Tito actually beleaves he beat the shit out of Shamrock the last time they fought.

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Tito's proven that he's better on his feet and ust as good on the ground. As much as I'd like to see virtue and goodness prevail over the huntington beach bad boy, the smart money's on Tito.


one question :Since when did shamrock embody that which is virtuous and good? hehe But I do agree about the smart money.


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I like the way that Tito actually beleaves he beat the shit out of Shamrock the last time they fought.
I'm not a fan of Ortiz and even I know that he did beat the shit out of Shamrock in thier first fight.
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Well he didnt KO or TKO sp that not beat shti out of him in my book. Yea i know beat beat he up, but not as a bad as he makes it out to be

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Well he didnt KO or TKO sp that not beat shti out of him in my book. Yea i know beat beat he up, but not as a bad as he makes it out to be
No it's as bad as he makes it out to be.



Ken didn't even make it to the 3rd round.

I'm not a fan of Tito in any respect, but anyone realisticly expecting much out the upcoming UFC 61 fight may be a little too idealistic. I think a big thing that hurt Ken (and his skillset in general) is that he became a victom of believing his own hype and press. After his stint in the WWF, all he did was try to stand and brawl with people when that was never his greatest strength in the first place (submission wrestling was always his game). He could have trained deeper into that, and made his striking supplemental to his game plan but he tried to do the polar opposite, and was never even a modestly good striker in the first place. Given that he tried to completely re-invent the wheel in what brought him to the dance, he found himself lost in the new crop fighters who were more skilled.

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