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cursedbat 04-22-2011 04:56 AM

Lesner the worst TUF coach ever?
 
Lesner the worst TUF coach ever? I'd say yes his coaching is beyond horrible. Has no idea what it means to lead others. How can you teach what you dont know.

Trix 04-22-2011 05:12 AM

Lesnar's a good coach.

His team is still suffering from the backlash of Lesnar's WWE days. Lesnar's team resents their coach being a "guy from WWE" and doesn't give Lesnar the respect or credit he deserves.

That's why they're losing.

Even if Lesnar gives them good advice or training they won't listen or take it seriously because he's just "some fool from WWE who doesn't know what he's talking about".

I think the people on Lesnar's team who do respect and like him will do well. Chris Cope seems to be one of the few guys who likes and respects Brock and he won his fight.

Len Bentley -- Brock told him from the beginning not to let the things about Chris Cope being a "double agent" get in his head. Len Bentley didn't listen to Brock and let the drama get to him. End result -- he lost his fight.

Charlie Rader. Brock told him to get off the fence. Charlie didn't want to listen. Ok, Brock switches to plan B -- stay inside and throw punches, elbows + whatever. Charlie doesn't want to listen. He does the complete opposite of what Brock tells him. Charlie loses.

The people on Brock's team are being idiots. That's where the weak link in Brock's "coaching" is.

Hammerlock2.0 04-22-2011 05:26 AM

Nope, not even close. Ken Shamrock was pretty awful on TUF. Even Rampage was a better coach in my opinion.

METALLICA_RULES 04-22-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trix (Post 1401414)
Lesnar's a good coach.

His team is still suffering from the backlash of Lesnar's WWE days. Lesnar's team resents their coach being a "guy from WWE" and doesn't give Lesnar the respect or credit he deserves.

That's why they're losing.

Even if Lesnar gives them good advice or training they won't listen or take it seriously because he's just "some fool from WWE who doesn't know what he's talking about".

I think the people on Lesnar's team who do respect and like him will do well. Chris Cope seems to be one of the few guys who likes and respects Brock and he won his fight.

Len Bentley -- Brock told him from the beginning not to let the things about Chris Cope being a "double agent" get in his head. Len Bentley didn't listen to Brock and let the drama get to him. End result -- he lost his fight.

Charlie Rader. Brock told him to get off the fence. Charlie didn't want to listen. Ok, Brock switches to plan B -- stay inside and throw punches, elbows + whatever. Charlie doesn't want to listen. He does the complete opposite of what Brock tells him. Charlie loses.

The people on Brock's team are being idiots. That's where the weak link in Brock's "coaching" is.

Your exactly right. Positive rep for you :thumbsup:

leifdawg 04-22-2011 08:59 AM

IMO, the worst part about Brock's coaching was his talent evaluations.

Brock has the potential to be a great coach once he realizes 99% of the fighters out there aren't as motivated as he is.

METALLICA_RULES 04-22-2011 09:06 AM

He's not the worst coach. From what I've seen, I'd go with Shamrock.

Relavate 04-22-2011 09:11 AM

TUF shows that better fighters are not always better coaches. People tend to listen to the less assholeish (sp) of coaches and ones that actually care unlike brock, rampage, shamrock etc.

KillerShark1985 04-22-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trix (Post 1401414)
Lesnar's a good coach.

His team is still suffering from the backlash of Lesnar's WWE days. Lesnar's team resents their coach being a "guy from WWE" and doesn't give Lesnar the respect or credit he deserves.

That's why they're losing.

Even if Lesnar gives them good advice or training they won't listen or take it seriously because he's just "some fool from WWE who doesn't know what he's talking about".

I think the people on Lesnar's team who do respect and like him will do well. Chris Cope seems to be one of the few guys who likes and respects Brock and he won his fight.

Len Bentley -- Brock told him from the beginning not to let the things about Chris Cope being a "double agent" get in his head. Len Bentley didn't listen to Brock and let the drama get to him. End result -- he lost his fight.

Charlie Rader. Brock told him to get off the fence. Charlie didn't want to listen. Ok, Brock switches to plan B -- stay inside and throw punches, elbows + whatever. Charlie doesn't want to listen. He does the complete opposite of what Brock tells him. Charlie loses.

The people on Brock's team are being idiots. That's where the weak link in Brock's "coaching" is.

Even if you do have a point and the reasons that you stated are true as to why his team are not doing well, does it still not remain true that if for any reason your team does not respect you or want your advice, does that not still make you a bad coach or at least person to be coaching.

Rusty 04-22-2011 09:53 AM

Until Brock has his team enjoy a motivational viewing of his own highlight reel I'll go with Shamrock being the worst coach.

hadoq 04-22-2011 10:22 AM

Yea Brock's team were all "we're no chicken shit" and whatnot, but this was all mouth, they should accept it when they get called "chicken shit" and listen to Brock when he teaches them how to turn into "chicken salad".

they get caught in the drama and don't seem to focus on their training or fights.

I think Brock looks like a better coach than JDS but I agree on the fact that his team don't give him the respect he deserves.


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