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John8204 06-05-2011 12:17 AM

JDS is the worst coach ever
 
I hate to say it, we've had so many bad coaches on TUF.

Some would say Ken Shamrock is the worst ever, but Ed Herman won tonight. Do you think anyone from Team Dos Santos will ever win a fight in the UFC again? I don't.

Some would say Quinton Jackson is the worst ever, but his team was horrible. Team Evans was stacked with talent, he had four guys who are likely ranked in the top fifty right now.

I just watched several prospected, promising guys who should not suck and from what I saw from those four boys was shameful.

It's unbelievable to see how horrible those boys looked tonight. To see three of them gas after one round is shocking. And then you had character collapses, guys bragging about beating up other guys, guys taunting in the ring, guys crying hysterically after.

I don't know, this season just made me angry.

Good job Clay, Chris, and Tony for winning contracts, sorry Chuck you didn't draw a Dos Santos fighter you sure looked a hell of a lot better in your lose than Ramsey, Edwards, and Ryan.

paulfromtulsa 06-05-2011 12:21 AM

Ramsey gets the award for best toenails

KnockoutKim 06-05-2011 12:25 AM

lol he was a heck of a guy tho he really motivated his fighters. its just sad how zach davis's career is now over.

METALLICA_RULES 06-05-2011 01:33 AM

I believe Kendall Grove beat Ed Herman to become the TUF 3 winner.

John8204 06-05-2011 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by METALLICA_RULES (Post 1422298)
I believe Kendall Grove beat Ed Herman to become the TUF 3 winner.

And the point would be that one person from Team Shamrock is still in the UFC so many years later.

Not looking good for any of the members of team Dos Santos to still be around by the start of 2012.

Hammerlock2.0 06-05-2011 11:24 AM

I love how it started out as "Brock is the worst coach ever" then went to "Brock is the best coach ever" and then to "JDS is the worst coach ever".

oldfan 06-05-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammerlock2.0 (Post 1422498)
I love how it started out as "Brock is the worst coach ever" then went to "Brock is the best coach ever" and then to "JDS is the worst coach ever".

Hahaha and that's just coaches on a tv show. I get dizzy around here watching them do the same thing to fighters.

HexRei 06-05-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by John8204 (Post 1422234)
I hate to say it, we've had so many bad coaches on TUF.

Some would say Ken Shamrock is the worst ever, but Ed Herman won tonight. Do you think anyone from Team Dos Santos will ever win a fight in the UFC again? I don't.

So Junior is such a bad coach he managed to ruin their entire careers in a few weeks? :confused02:

John8204 06-05-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HexRei (Post 1422505)
So Junior is such a bad coach he managed to ruin their entire careers in a few weeks? :confused02:

YUP, if you saw four guys demonstrate have physical and mental breakdowns on one night don't you think you should look at the common factor?

Ramsey - blubbering mess at the end of his fight, clearly broken mentally. The UFC has been known to cut mentally weak TUF alum basically on the spot (Hi Starnes and Escudero)

Shamar - Through his little tantrum while he was fighting a scrub in Ryan, you think Zuffa is going to let a mediocre fighter get away with that? The guy is going to be used as enhancement talent and cut once he loses.

Edwards - Gassed after five minutes, we don't like to see that in HW's what do you think happens with bloody Welter weights.

Ryan - Looked like someone fighting Royce Gracie in UFC 1, only thing missing was the one boxing glove.

Javier - Lost twice on the show, and demonstrated his style of boring lay and pray that didn't work.

Mick - If he's lucky maybe people will forget who is he, I know I did.

and of course

Zach - Had his bloody career ended by bad cornering.

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Originally Posted by Hammerlock2.0
- I love how it started out as "Brock is the worst coach ever" then went to "Brock is the best coach ever" and then to "JDS is the worst coach ever".

It's almost like they are reactions to each other. :wink01: One beget the other beget the other. The difference is one can be supported with the facts, while the other one was just peoples personal impression of a person they didn't understand. Well it's all over and the guy who called his team "chicken shit" won the season and got half of his team contracts in the process. Brock did his job, his team won their fights and he got his kids signed. JDS did not physically or mentally prepare his boys for the UFC, he had talent and he didn't develop it.

I don't really blame the guy and I don't hate him for doing what he did. JDS is a 26 year old who wanted to make a good impression and be well liked by America. I blame the UFC for putting someone that young and ill prepared in a position to develop talent, it was a bad call, and in hindsight one of the worst decisions in the shows history. I liked Dos Santos before, during and even after the show, I'll be rooting for him to beat Carwin. But he did a very poor job on this show

Spic_D 06-05-2011 01:41 PM

You know JDS did not coach them in the finale right? Plus couching guys in TUF which have a succesful UFC career doesn't make them a good coach,they may be, but they don't keep being those guys' coaches so it is really stupid to asume that they are awesome coaches because of it.

You can make the arguments that they knew how to pick the fighters for sure, but if thats the case, Rampage still horrible because he has the one that picked his team.


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