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Old 06-08-2013, 12:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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None of the above makes up for losing out on some of the best games ever. And lets face it... its about the games. Not your processor or graphics chip.

Oh, one thing... cheaper games? Can you rent PC games?
There are VERY few games that were worth playing that didn't make it to PC. And it is nice to play a game like battlefield 3 at 60 fps which the xbox360 was not getting.

But how many exclusives were really that amazing that didn't come to pc that are consider some of the best ever? Red Dead? It was ok at best. Just a wild wild west GTA.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I like console and PC both. Consoles have far better exclusive games than PC and more exclusives as well unless you like to count the thousands of awful indie games running around out there, consoles also are far more comfortable to play and has much better co-op play unless you have no friends IRL that likes couch co-op, but PC has mods for third party games like Skyrim that keep games going long after release and some good MMO's, better graphics and better FPS controls. I wouldn't say it necessarily has the best strategy games (I'd take Fire Emblem on 3DS over any SC game for example), but there's no denying that the RTS genre flourishes on PC where as it isn't popular/isn't well done on consoles most of the time.

As for the UFC game, I played through the story mode on the most recent one, it wasn't too bad but it left my memory very shortly after beating it, not really that good, IMO. So it'll be interesting to see how they do this time around.
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Whatever. When I'm playing The Last of Us on my PS3 next week, I'll be thinking of you guys.

There is a monstrous list of *awesome* games that never make it to the PC.

One last thing. FPS? I would rather play any FPS on a controller then using a mouse. Sitting at a desk with a mouse in one hand and a keyboard under the other. Pure geek fest. How am I supposed to get immersed sitting there like that? Rubbish.

Ive been there an done it all. Massive PC lan fests. FPS. RPG. The lot. But now? Bollocks to all geeky shite. I want to kick back, nice lighting, controller in hand... away I go. In fact, I fancy me some Red Dead Redemption right now... its awesome. Have you guys played it? No? Shame.
Well i have a great PC and a PS3 for that very reason. I enjoy both of them very much and believe one should not compare them to the other.

But seriously FPS on the controller is better??? The aiming speed is much slower on a controler as you have to push the analog stick and wait for the aim center to move to your desired direction and then you stop moving the analog stick. On the computer you just move your mouse directly to were you want it and its there in an instant. Its much faster and more precise. The FPS scene on the computer is much more competitive and the headsets are better for communication.

+ the PC does have controllers to use if that is something you must have.


And i play a ridiculous amount of games on the computer that are completely free. For instance right now i am playing Infinity wars and path of exile and Prime World. I did not have to pay a cent to play them.
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PC gaming can be just as comfortable, it just requires a little more setting up then a console would. But you can hook it up to televisions and use wireless controllers with it. I have used a wireless xbox controller on my pc for awhile now and it works fine.

There are decent exclusives, but it's not like every exclusive is just the best game ever. I can't think of more than a few that I really rated up there and even then, it wouldn't make me wish I had a console. The only reason I own a console is because most of my friends have them and I like to play with them.

As far as specs, mods and game prices, PC is miles ahead. Not to mention a computer is already a better investment than a console in the grand scheme of things.
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Well i have a great PC and a PS3 for that very reason. I enjoy both of them very much and believe one should not compare them to the other.

But seriously FPS on the controller is better??? The aiming speed is much slower on a controler as you have to push the analog stick and wait for the aim center to move to your desired direction and then you stop moving the analog stick. On the computer you just move your mouse directly to were you want it and its there in an instant. Its much faster and more precise. The FPS scene on the computer is much more competitive and the headsets are better for communication.

+ the PC does have controllers to use if that is something you must have.


And i play a ridiculous amount of games on the computer that are completely free. For instance right now i am playing Infinity wars and path of exile and Prime World. I did not have to pay a cent to play them.
To be fair, console FPS games have aim assist and for people who aren't super competitive, the controls probably are better. They are easier, more responsive and generally speaking you hit your target far more often because of the aim assist.

I agree that PC has better FPS controls, but you can't forget that most FPS gamers (cod fans/halo fans/battlefield fans) aren't there for "serious" play and console aim assist makes things easier thus they can kill more often which means better controls for them.
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To be fair, console FPS games have aim assist and for people who aren't super competitive, the controls probably are better. They are easier, more responsive and generally speaking you hit your target far more often because of the aim assist.

I agree that PC has better FPS controls, but you can't forget that most FPS gamers (cod fans/halo fans/battlefield fans) aren't there for "serious" play and console aim assist makes things easier thus they can kill more often which means better controls for them.
How do you figure that the controls are better and that they are more responsive???

If anything its the other way around.

Well yea i agree that its from people who arnt that competitive. Which is why i pointed out that the FPS scene on the computer is more competitive.

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And yes there is an Aim Assist for the gaming challenged and that is good for them. But that does not mean that the controls are better just that it takes less skill to kill on a console then a computer. And if im playing an FPS game i want the kills to be from my skills and not an aim assist. Because playing FPS on the computer is more fast paced the controls set up needs to be in a way which lower response time in any way possible.
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How do you figure that the controls are better and that they are more responsive???

If anything its the other way around.

Well yea i agree that its from people who arnt that competitive. Which is why i pointed out that the FPS scene on the computer is more competitive.



And yes there is an Aim Assist for the gaming challenged and that is good for them. But that does not mean that the controls are better just that it takes less skill to kill on a console then a computer. And if im playing an FPS game i want the kills to be from my skills and not an aim assist. Because playing FPS on the computer is more fast paced the controls set up needs to be in a way which lower response time in any way possible.
If a casual CoD fan likes to sit down and play CoD an hour at night or whatever, and he is able to kill people on the console because of the aim assist and controller, but cannot do it on the PC because the PC doesn't have any aim assist and the keyboard/mouse combination is difficult to learn, then those controls are better for him, hands down. They are more responsive because of the aim assist and in general better because he can actually kill people.

Things aren't so black and white, what's better for you isn't better for someone else. You personally think the keyboard/mouse controls are better as do I, that guy however would think they suck and would think the controller on a console is better.

It's called personal preference and nobody is right or wrong.
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If a casual CoD fan likes to sit down and play CoD an hour at night or whatever, and he is able to kill people on the console because of the aim assist and controller, but cannot do it on the PC because the PC doesn't have any aim assist and the keyboard/mouse combination is difficult to learn, then those controls are better for him, hands down. They are more responsive because of the aim assist and in general better because he can actually kill people.

Things aren't so black and white, what's better for you isn't better for someone else. You personally think the keyboard/mouse controls are better as do I, that guy however would think they suck and would think the controller on a console is better.

It's called personal preference and nobody is right or wrong.
While I agree with most of what you are saying I just can't agree on the response time. That isn't opinion its just fact the the controls on the pc are better for response time. And the aim assist has nothing to do with the controllers and everything to do with the games programming.

While some people might be better at using a controller then a mouse if you are moving a cursor with a analog stick or a mouse which would be faster?? The mouse ofcourse. So if someone is equally skilled at using the mouse and controller the mouse is faster. This is purely speaking about response time.
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While I agree with most of what you are saying I just can't agree on the response time. That isn't opinion its just fact the the controls on the pc are better for response time. And the aim assist has nothing to do with the controllers and everything to do with the games programming.

While some people might be better at using a controller then a mouse if you are moving a cursor with a analog stick or a mouse which would be faster?? The mouse ofcourse. So if someone is equally skilled at using the mouse and controller the mouse is faster. This is purely speaking about response time.
Mouse is faster if you are skilled with it, yeah. I'm just pointing out that some people say (including myself) that mouse/keyboard on PC is best for FPS games, when in reality it's what's best for "us", not for everyone, and it is not the preferred method of control for many.
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