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The idea that Bruce Lee was the greatest fighter of all time is absolutely ridiculous. Put him in a cage and he obviously gets submitted in the first minute. If Lee was around NOW, then I'd have almost no doubt he'd probably be a champion, based on his natural abilities plus his commitment and training. But come on, Bruce Lee's contribution to martial arts is the exact same as Sylvester Stallone's contributions to boxing. Lee wasn't known as a martial artist, he was known as an actor.
What? put him in a cage and he gets submitted but if he fight's NOW he would be champion? And i hope you know Lee was doing arm bars and arm triangle,wheel kicks etc..before Renzo,Royce or the UFC was born.




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What? put him in a cage and he gets submitted but if he fight's NOW he would be champion? And i hope you know Lee was doing arm bars and arm triangle,wheel kicks etc..before Renzo,Royce or the UFC was born.
I think he is saying if lee was young and started training in this era that he could be champion but if you take his current skillset and throw him in with today's animals he would lose.

But yea the way he worded that makes no sense but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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If he was training now, for MMA, he'd be training to the knowledge we have now.

If you put a prime Bruce Lee in the cage with the skillset he had, he would get absolutely slaughtered. Even in UFC 1 against Royce or Ken, let alone now against Johnson or Barao.

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If he was training now, for MMA, he'd be training to the knowledge we have now.

If you put a prime Bruce Lee in the cage with the skillset he had, he would get absolutely slaughtered. Even in UFC 1 against Royce or Ken, let alone now against Johnson or Barao.
Even starting today we have no clue how good Bruce would be. In my small experience I've seen absolute monster kick boxers never learn how to wrestle or do bjj. Not saying this is the case but this idea that oh well he was great at one thing so he'd be amazing at all of them is far fetched it doesn't work that way.

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Even starting today we have no clue how good Bruce would be. In my small experience I've seen absolute monster kick boxers never learn how to wrestle or do bjj. Not saying this is the case but this idea that oh well he was great at one thing so he'd be amazing at all of them is far fetched it doesn't work that way.

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I'm sorry for the thread derail

In my thinking, Bruce Lee does two things. Demonstrations and movies. Bren Foster on Fight Science is more impressive imo in demonstrations but I can't predict he'd be the "greatest fighter of all time" as a result. Bruce Lee always gets credited with street fighting, and some small Chinese boxing tournaments or whatever. Let's face it, that's NOT the experience to be a UFC fighter.

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We probably don't lose out on anyone. They put in all the UFC fighters they were going to put in. Lee is a bonus not a instead off.

And I think its awesome. I wish they would add jean Claude, Sylvester Stallone, Steven seagal, chuck Norris, jet lee as well. That would simply be a lot of fun to see the slow motion ko of van damms signature moves.

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Yes but they spent all that time on making the Lee model when they could have just added another guy.



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If he was training now, for MMA, he'd be training to the knowledge we have now.

If you put a prime Bruce Lee in the cage with the skillset he had, he would get absolutely slaughtered. Even in UFC 1 against Royce or Ken, let alone now against Johnson or Barao.

That would be you're opinion I think Bruce knowing about 10 different martial arts and created his own would destroy Royce in about a min.He obviously knows all about Bjj and how to defend it , with his speed and stamina Royce would tap in about 20 seconds if he doesn't get wheel kicked in the face since Royce has no stand up.




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That would be you're opinion I think Bruce knowing about 10 different martial arts and created his own would destroy Royce in about a min.He obviously knows all about Bjj and how to defend it , with his speed and stamina Royce would tap in about 20 seconds if he doesn't get wheel kicked in the face since Royce has no stand up.
Haha haha what! ?!?! You do know Royce beat guys in mma who had actually fought before and Bruce never beat anyone. He was an actor. I'm so sick of the JKD crap and the guys it brings they are as bad as krav maga.

Now had Bruce been able to train bjj who knows who would have won but he'd have been as shocked by it as everyone else was.

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Haha haha what! ?!?! You do know Royce beat guys in mma who had actually fought before and Bruce never beat anyone. He was an actor. I'm so sick of the JKD crap and the guys it brings they are as bad as krav maga.

Now had Bruce been able to train bjj who knows who would have won but he'd have been as shocked by it as everyone else was.

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Yah he never trained Bjj he only took side control on Kareem then put him in an arm triangle and then arm barred him but he def never studied any Bjj . Bunch of nubs know nothing about Mma Royce would get rag dolled by Bruce just because of pure stamina besides knowing Bjj before Royce was born.




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Yah he never trained Bjj he only took side control on Kareem then put him in an arm triangle and then arm barred him but he def never studied any Bjj . Bunch of nubs know nothing about Mma Royce would get rag dolled by Bruce just because of pure stamina besides knowing Bjj before Royce was born.
There is so much wrong with this. But okay.

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