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Old 08-03-2007, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best RPG

Seems like a few of you are down with the swords and dragons nerdiness of RPGs, so what's the best there is?

For those of you that dont know the term, Final Fantasy games are the most popular example. You choose your attack then the game does it for you basically.

I got the obvious answer, Final Fantasy 7. It just broke new ground in terms of storyline, battle system, overall difficulty, characters, maturity etc. Great game

Runner ups: Chrono Trigger, Lufia II, Final Fantasy Tactics, Parasite Eve, and Mario RPG
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Old 08-04-2007, 12:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Regardless of the "swords and dragons nerdiness of RPGs," I gotta' say that most console RPGs lack a lot of actual Role Playing. Regardless of that (since RPGs make up a huge part of my library of games), the game I think is the best RPG released doesn't have one dragon in it.

Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 for the PC are two of the greatest actual Role Playing Games out there. Role Playing from its inception was originally about taking time out to "play the role" of an alternate character in a make-believe setting. The biggest thing that differs between RPGs and other "board games" is simply you have an infinitely larger amount of options available to you. Not too many J-style RPGs have that. Mostly, they're like point-and-click adventures that pigeon-hole you into a character set on a pre-determined path. Not too much actual "Role Playing" in that.

Regardless of my obvious "paper-and-dice" elitism, the Fallout series is a hell of a great set of games, even in their advanced age. If you haven't played them, I suggest you do. What other game is going to let you adventure the post-apocalyptic world to become a Pimp, Pornstar, Mafia Boss, Explorer, Champion Boxer, Prophet and savior of the human race all at the same time?

That's right... None.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Regardless of the "swords and dragons nerdiness of RPGs," I gotta' say that most console RPGs lack a lot of actual Role Playing. Regardless of that (since RPGs make up a huge part of my library of games), the game I think is the best RPG released doesn't have one dragon in it.

Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 for the PC are two of the greatest actual Role Playing Games out there. Role Playing from its inception was originally about taking time out to "play the role" of an alternate character in a make-believe setting. The biggest thing that differs between RPGs and other "board games" is simply you have an infinitely larger amount of options available to you. Not too many J-style RPGs have that. Mostly, they're like point-and-click adventures that pigeon-hole you into a character set on a pre-determined path. Not too much actual "Role Playing" in that.

Regardless of my obvious "paper-and-dice" elitism, the Fallout series is a hell of a great set of games, even in their advanced age. If you haven't played them, I suggest you do. What other game is going to let you adventure the post-apocalyptic world to become a Pimp, Pornstar, Mafia Boss, Explorer, Champion Boxer, Prophet and savior of the human race all at the same time?

That's right... None.
Haha wow, I think it's safe to say that RPG is also an accepted term for turn based battle style console games, even if they're not traditional "role playing" or whatever. Maybe there should be a different term, but there's not, so Final Fantasys are RPGs too.

I like Fallout too
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Final Fantasy X...HANDS down.
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Final Fantasy X...HANDS down.
That game was sick but it bugged me that it didn't have a map screen.
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That game was sick but it bugged me that it didn't have a map screen.
Yeah, lol...it had it's little quirks, that's for sure. Call me crazy but it almost brought me to tears...that's just insane for a video game.
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Yeah, lol...it had it's little quirks, that's for sure. Call me crazy but it almost brought me to tears...that's just insane for a video game.

Which one is 10 again? Whats the storyline?

I wanna cry as well...lol
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Yeah, lol...it had it's little quirks, that's for sure. Call me crazy but it almost brought me to tears...that's just insane for a video game.
Yeah I hear that, the ending was sad as hell if I remember right. I cant recall the exact storyline westcoast, booyakascha probly can. Tidus was the main character, it had that underwater blitzball game, i think Tidus's dad wound up being a bad guy, instead of a map screen it had a mario style level to level screen. That help?
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IMO the best RPG is Fable: The Lost Chapters!
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Haha wow, I think it's safe to say that RPG is also an accepted term for turn based battle style console games, even if they're not traditional "role playing" or whatever. Maybe there should be a different term, but there's not, so Final Fantasys are RPGs too.

I like Fallout too
Well... The funny thing about that is that many of the titles pre-FF7 were simply called "JRPGs." Up until that point, RPGs weren't a staple console genre. In fact, if you wanted a good RPG, you'd have to be a dedicated PC gamer pre-1997. The advent of FF7 broke the genre wide open in the states, or at least pushed it into the main stream for console owners. While I may not name FF7 "the best RPG ever," I won't deny its place in the history of gaming. But that's a diatribe I can get into for another time...

You know, many "JRPGs" were called "digital novels" by (of all things) the adult software industry in Japan. They knew there was only a nominal amount of "Role-Playing" involved, but they couldn't call them "Role-Playing" games as they would lose any distinguishing place on a genre recognition level (Japan was flooded with them, not so much with H-Games at the time). The funny thing is, now that their H-Games, the digital novel moniker is probably more applicable to most console RPGs now than ever before.

Here's a few RPGs to look out for on a few older consoles:

NES: The Dragon Warrior Series

Sega Genesis: Phantasy Star 2 and 4, Exile

SNES: Super Mario RPG (the only Mario Game I *heart* over), Robotrek, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 3/6, Shadowrun

Sega CD: Lunar: The Silver Star, Lunar: Eternal Blue, Vay

Sega Saturn: Panzer Dragoon Saga, Magic Knight Rayearth, Albert Odyssey

PSX/PS1: The Suikoden Series, Xenogears, Parasite Eve 1 & 2, Valkyrie Profile

Sega Dreamcast: Skies of Arcadia (playing through it as we "speak"), Gandia 2, Phantasy Star Online

PS2: Rogue Galaxy, The Suikoden Series, Xenosaga Series, Final Fantasy X, Steambot Chronicles

That's what I can come up with off the top of my head.
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