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PS1 was the greatest console ever made

I have been looking back and starting to collect some older games I used to love from the past which led me to this thread. When looking at the different consoles, it is absolutely insane how many incredible games the PS1 had. I love the systems before and after it, but honestly none of them compare imo.

Final Fantasy VII/VIII/Tactics
Chrono Cross
Breath of Fire IV
Twisted Metal 1-3
Tomb Raider 1-3
Metal Gear Solid
Crash Bandicoot 1-3/Crash Team Racing
Spyro 1/2
Resident Evil 1-3
Silent Hill
Gran Turismo 1/2
Tekken 1-3
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1-3
Megaman Legends 1/2
Rampage World Tour
Driver 1/2

First console to receive GTA.

That is an insane list of mega games that got their start on the console as well as a handful that had continued success. To be fair, Microsoft didn't have a console at the time (not counting the handful of PC gamers), but I honestly would take this list over a combined list from PS4/Xbox one. And Nintendo has had iconic games forever, but I don't think 1 of their systems competes with the PS1 as the king.
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I'd agree it's one of the best, but THE best? I think a lot of people have nostalgia goggles (not an insult, I have them too, I love the PS1 and what not), and it makes us not take a look at modern consoles.

The PS3 for example, it has:

Red Dead redemption
Ni No Kuni
GTA4
GTAV
MGS4
MGSV
The Last of Us
Uncharted 1, 2 and 3
Infamous 1 and 2
LittleBigPlanet
Heavy Rain
BioShock 1, 2 and Infinite
God of War 3
Assassins Creed 1/2/3/and whatever else, the whole series basically
Batman Arkham games
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls 1 and 2
Modern Warfare series (best CoD titles)
Far Cry 3
Journey
Portal 1 and 2
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
Oblivion
Skyrim
Mass Effect 1/2/3
Dead Space 1/2/3
Street Fighter IV
Dishonored
The Waling Dead
Persona 5
Catherine
Dragon Age: Origins
Bayonetta
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Darksiders 1 and 2
Resistance 1 2 and 3
Sleeping Dogs
Deadly Premonition
Dragon's Dogma
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
Mirror's Edge
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Saints Row 3 and 4
Fear 1, 2 and 3

I could go on and on. Some of the very, very, very best games ever made were on the PS3. I think modern age consoles are overlooked because of nostalgia when it comes to "greatest of all time" in video game discussions. People pull off SNES/NES/64/PS1 games and tend to ignore all the consoles that come later, even though consoles like the PS3 delivered some of the very best games of all time and in gigantic quantities.

Still, I love the PS1.
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I feel SNES/N64 had the best lineup. PS1 also had rayman 1 and 2 don't forget
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I'd agree it's one of the best, but THE best? I think a lot of people have nostalgia goggles (not an insult, I have them too, I love the PS1 and what not), and it makes us not take a look at modern consoles.

The PS3 for example, it has:

Red Dead redemption
Ni No Kuni
GTA4
GTAV
MGS4
MGSV
The Last of Us
Uncharted 1, 2 and 3
Infamous 1 and 2
LittleBigPlanet
Heavy Rain
BioShock 1, 2 and Infinite
God of War 3
Assassins Creed 1/2/3/and whatever else, the whole series basically
Batman Arkham games
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls 1 and 2
Modern Warfare series (best CoD titles)
Far Cry 3
Journey
Portal 1 and 2
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
Oblivion
Skyrim
Mass Effect 1/2/3
Dead Space 1/2/3
Street Fighter IV
Dishonored
The Waling Dead
Persona 5
Catherine
Dragon Age: Origins
Bayonetta
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Darksiders 1 and 2
Resistance 1 2 and 3
Sleeping Dogs
Deadly Premonition
Dragon's Dogma
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
Mirror's Edge
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Saints Row 3 and 4
Fear 1, 2 and 3

I could go on and on. Some of the very, very, very best games ever made were on the PS3. I think modern age consoles are overlooked because of nostalgia when it comes to "greatest of all time" in video game discussions. People pull off SNES/NES/64/PS1 games and tend to ignore all the consoles that come later, even though consoles like the PS3 delivered some of the very best games of all time and in gigantic quantities.

Still, I love the PS1.
Agreed! PS1 games were sick back in the day but games have been evolving since then. Games on the Wii-U are proof of that.
Super Mario Maker
Xenoblade Chronicles
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Fatal Frame 5
Super Mario 3D World
Bayonetta 2
Splatoon
Hyrule Warriors
Smash Bros
Pikmin 3
The Wonderful 101
so on and so forth....

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Theres definitely a case of the PS1 being greatest console ever made
  • After the years of the industry trying, it was the PS1 that finally made gaming cool
  • Nothing at the time competed with it on a technical level (for gaming), not even a top end PC
  • Controllers were very innovative and still copied to this day
  • Ushered in a new era of gaming
  • Made genres previously only available on PC accessible to consoles users - FPS, RTS etc


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My vote goes to the Ps2... honestly... all my fondest early gaming memories are Ps2...

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Theres definitely a case of the PS1 being greatest console ever made
After the years of the industry trying, it was the PS1 that finally made gaming cool
Indeed. It came along when the rave scene was in full effect. The was a single landmark game: Wipeout. It was the first title to include a soundtrack from established artists. The combination of the hard beats and the visuals hit the nail on the head at the time. People who *never* played games we're suddenly interested. I remember many of the girlies we used to hang with had no interest at all in games ( aside from the occasional drunken SNES Street Fighter random button mashup ). But Wipeout changed all that. Tekken also did it to a degree.

But me personally, I didn't really get into it. There was something deeply unattractive about how the PS1 ( and the PS2 ) displayed its colours. All muddy/shitty looking. It was hard coming from he superb SNES ( my personal vote for the greatest ) with its vibrant colours, to the murky Sony shite. Such a shame that the first proper 3D console would not impress me. When the N64 came along, now that was impressive. That machine gave me a lot of joy.

IVe never really liked Sony hardware. Always gone the MS route. But admittedly, the PS4 got it right. Neither here nor there for me anymore, as I switched back to PC about 4 years ago and not looked back. I will grab a PS4 at some point as it has some exclusives I dont want to miss.

But yeah, SNES was the one for me. Seriously iconic hardware. Lots of fantastic games - especially multiplayer. Good times. And a close second would be the N64.
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Indeed. It came along when the rave scene was in full effect. The was a single landmark game: Wipeout. It was the first title to include a soundtrack from established artists. The combination of the hard beats and the visuals hit the nail on the head at the time. People who *never* played games we're suddenly interested. I remember many of the girlies we used to hang with had no interest at all in games ( aside from the occasional drunken SNES Street Fighter random button mashup ). But Wipeout changed all that. Tekken also did it to a degree.

But me personally, I didn't really get into it. There was something deeply unattractive about how the PS1 ( and the PS2 ) displayed its colours. All muddy/shitty looking. It was hard coming from he superb SNES ( my personal vote for the greatest ) with its vibrant colours, to the murky Sony shite. Such a shame that the first proper 3D console would not impress me. When the N64 came along, now that was impressive. That machine gave me a lot of joy.

IVe never really liked Sony hardware. Always gone the MS route. But admittedly, the PS4 got it right. Neither here nor there for me anymore, as I switched back to PC about 4 years ago and not looked back. I will grab a PS4 at some point as it has some exclusives I dont want to miss.

But yeah, SNES was the one for me. Seriously iconic hardware. Lots of fantastic games - especially multiplayer. Good times. And a close second would be the N64.
SNES was awesome too. In terms of importance though, I rate the PS1 higher.

I remember having mates round to play on Super Mario Kart with Radio 1 on or a mix tape, we'd gamble our pocket money on BattleMode 20p a win, most have played 100's of battlemodes over the years. Even now when I hear a tune from that era it reminds me of Mario Kart, stuff like The Shaman, Shaggy, SL2, Dr Alban, Culture Beat. I miss that kind of multiplayer, its definitely more fun than online, especially the intricacies you can pick up like looking at the other guys controller - you know that red shell is coming your way if the thumb is over the button, so you can head for cover.


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I'd agree it's one of the best, but THE best? I think a lot of people have nostalgia goggles (not an insult, I have them too, I love the PS1 and what not), and it makes us not take a look at modern consoles.
I am just looking at what the PS1 started. THPS went on for years and years to be successful. It was the first console to receive a GTA game. Tomb Raider is still being made, Resident Evil's, Gran Turismo is still around. So many franchises that went on for years and that are still successfully around got their start on that console. Spite below really hit what I was thinking. The importance of the PS1 far surpassed the importance of the PS3.

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Theres definitely a case of the PS1 being greatest console ever made
  • After the years of the industry trying, it was the PS1 that finally made gaming cool
  • Nothing at the time competed with it on a technical level (for gaming), not even a top end PC
  • Controllers were very innovative and still copied to this day
  • Ushered in a new era of gaming
  • Made genres previously only available on PC accessible to consoles users - FPS, RTS etc
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My vote goes to the Ps2... honestly... all my fondest early gaming memories are Ps2...
I actually just broke back out my PS2 slim from back in the day. Have been lurking around ebay looking for deals. Playing the original NBA Street right now and have NFS Underground 1 on the way. Will probably get NBA street v2 and v3 as well as NFS UG2/Most Wanted. (I have been craving playing those two series for awhile now )

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Why does importance matter? I ever understood that when people made lists of "greatest games of all time, greatest consoles of all time" etc. Isn't the "greatest of all time" the "greatest" of all time? Not the most influential or what changed the most, but the actual greatest? The best quality? The actual best designed, highest quality, greatest game/console? The SNES is pathetically designed in terms of hardware by today's standards, as is the PS1. The disc space is laughable, as is the audio and graphical quality. Most of the games on these consoles are also extremely outdated, the gameplay usually frustrating and annoying more than enjoyable. At the time of release, of course, they were great. But now? They have been outclassed in every single area, multiple times over, except in perhaps how the story is told.

The "greatest of all time" should be left to the actual greatest of all time, not what was once, 25 years ago, the best at the time of release. That should be saved for "most influential" or "most revolutionary" lists. People putting Balloon Fight in the top 50 games of all time are out of their damn mind, or pong? Or anything like that. Just because at the time they were amazing, doesn't mean they are even remotely acceptable now. Now? Balloon fight is a shitty little app game that nobody would play, same with Pong. Times change, and the "greatest of all time" changes as well.

I can't vote for something like the SNES to be the greatest of all time, I've been playing tons of SNES roms this year and I'd say 70% of the games I try are complete garbage by today's standards. Some of the "best SNES games ever" lists, I go through them, download the ROMS, then give up quickly. At the time of release they were great, in 2017 many of the classics are really, really bad. Influential? Sure. Revolutionary at the time? Okay, why not. But the GREATEST of all time? How?
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