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Old 06-23-2013, 07:04 PM   #3191 (permalink)
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Pc games will always be behind console games, Final Fantasy games and MGS series games always had better graphics then any PC game.And when PC games catch up to PS4 graphics they will just come out with a new console.
Definitely backwards. Is MGS even out on PC? You can't compare it to a PC when its a different game. All I know if I have seen BF, COD, Skyrim, Fallout, Farcry 3, Bioshock, and many more that all looked better on the PC.

PC isn't playing catch up. The hardware available is already at new gen console if not better. It is pretty much common knowledge that PC's are superior when it comes to graphics and they can handle it at a much higher fps.

The 360 launched 8 years ago. You really cant believe it took 8 years for PC's to have better hardware in them. New CPU's and GPU's are already being released.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:10 PM   #3192 (permalink)
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Pc games will always be behind console games, Final Fantasy games and MGS series games always had better graphics then any PC game.And when PC games catch up to PS4 graphics they will just come out with a new console.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:41 PM   #3193 (permalink)
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Definitely backwards. Is MGS even out on PC? You can't compare it to a PC when its a different game. All I know if I have seen BF, COD, Skyrim, Fallout, Farcry 3, Bioshock, and many more that all looked better on the PC.
Yah i can that's kind of the whole argument because PC's will never have the rights to exclusive games like MGS witch had better graphics then any pc game,and that would be one example.And Skyrim and Bioshock are relatively new so while i was playing FF7 you were playing Pac man.



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PC isn't playing catch up. The hardware available is already at new gen console if not better. It is pretty much common knowledge that PC's are superior when it comes to graphics and they can handle it at a much higher fps.
Just because SOME pc's are superior in SOME homes now does't mean that the games will have better graphics then an exclusive game that was made for a ps3. I over clocked the shit out of my PC and then Sony or Microsoft will make a game with BETTER graphics and then my PC with my High fps will be playing a shitty game.


The 360 launched 8 years ago. You really cant believe it took 8 years for PC's to have better hardware in them. New CPU's and GPU's are already being released.[/quote]

did anyone say anything about hardware? like i said before
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Old 06-23-2013, 09:23 PM   #3194 (permalink)
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Right now I am multitasking between 4 games right now. Lost Odyssey, Metro 2033, Persona 3, and Bayonetta.

Finding it hard to go back to Metro 2033 because of that checkpoint bullshit I went through the last time. I have to find a way to balance both my ammo and air filters. If I can do that I might stand a chance in this game.

Tried playing lost Odyssey today but didn't get far. Was out all day in the sun and the heat zapped all my energy. When I got to the game I couldn't stop yawning. I'll have to try tomorrow.

I kind of have a love hate relationship with Bayonetta right now. Gameplay is fun and the story is crazy. I'm playing a servant of hell that is trying to save the world from heaven's angels. Seems a bit backwards but their it is. Getting killed more often then I should. Maybe I'm not that good at platformers.

Persona 3 and 4 makes me wonder how I ever passed high school. I actually have to attend class and the teacher will constantly pick me to answer questions like what Ressentiment is? Other then that Persona is a fun game to play.
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:36 PM   #3195 (permalink)
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Yah i can that's kind of the whole argument because PC's will never have the rights to exclusive games like MGS witch had better graphics then any pc game,and that would be one example.And Skyrim and Bioshock are relatively new so while i was playing FF7 you were playing Pac man.
What I am saying is that Skyrim and Bioshock are titles that were on both console and PC, and PC was definitely the better looking game. PC will always have more potential when it comes to how a game looks until companies make consoles upgradeable. PC has always had the better fps as well.


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Just because SOME pc's are superior in SOME homes now does't mean that the games will have better graphics then an exclusive game that was made for a ps3. I over clocked the shit out of my PC and then Sony or Microsoft will make a game with BETTER graphics and then my PC with my High fps will be playing a shitty game.
If you bought a high end GPU, this would literally never happen. Gamer's PC's will surpass the potential of consoles, so it doesn't matter how good the graphics will get. My PC destroyed the 360/PS3 capabilities and it didn't take 8 years for that to become a possibility. It was shortly after the launch. So no matter how good the game was, the PC would always outperform the console, regardless of how good or bad it was doing.

If you are relying on your CPU speed and neglecting the GPU, then that's the problem.

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did anyone say anything about hardware? like i said before .
When you are talking about how games look, at he end of the day, it comes down to what kind of hardware is in your box.

Sure, the exclusives are fun and look really good. But that doesn't put PC behind when every single game that is made for both looks better on PC.

For the record, I don't knock console gaming. I was a console gamer for most of my gaming life and I still buy and play consoles along with my PC, but I don't kid myself by thinking the PC is always trailing behind console. It simply isn't the case.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:28 AM   #3196 (permalink)
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Almost done with chapter 7 in FF13, at least it seems that way. The game is better than I had originally thought, but it's not amazing by any stretch of the imagination.

I like it enough to be looking forward to FF13-2 (even though I hear it's worse) and Lightning Returns.
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Almost done with chapter 7 in FF13, at least it seems that way. The game is better than I had originally thought, but it's not amazing by any stretch of the imagination.

I like it enough to be looking forward to FF13-2 (even though I hear it's worse) and Lightning Returns.
Don't. If you do you'll be disappointed. If you begin playing it thinking it's the worst game ever you will have some fun.
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Don't. If you do you'll be disappointed. If you begin playing it thinking it's the worst game ever you will have some fun.
I had some things to say about ff13-2 (should the final fantasy series die thread) because the plot didn't make sense and people in that world were way to accepting of the time travel thing.

"Oh, its paradox. oh well, nothing I haven't seen before."

I don't think worst game ever is accurate. I played games that were a hundred times worse the FF13-2. Games were it seemed developers didn't put any effort into their product at all. For instance, did you guys ever play Mindjack?
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If you bought a high end GPU, this would literally never happen. Gamer's PC's will surpass the potential of consoles, so it doesn't matter how good the graphics will get. My PC destroyed the 360/PS3 capabilities and it didn't take 8 years for that to become a possibility. It was shortly after the launch. So no matter how good the game was, the PC would always outperform the console, regardless of how good or bad it was doing.
The 360 is based on the Nvidia 7600 GT.

Heres how it compares to modern video cards.



Notice that the chart is for common video cards.. it does not include current top end cards such as the Geforce GTX Titan, which scored 8215 - making the best PC GPU 43 times better in performance. Now bare in mind that you can actually put 3 Titans in your machine if you choose too!

PC gaming is held back by consoles, every game that is made is made with a console in mind, so producers never really get the chance to fully test the PC's capabilities. It's financial of course, only a small percentage of gamers have top end PC's so making an exclusive top-end PC game is out of the question...but if they did... console owners would shit themselves, they'd never be able to look at their consoles in the same light again.

If everybody had PC's instead of consoles, we'd probably be playing photo-realistic games by now.
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